Electric assist. Still hydraulic for the most part. Couple cars that are entirely electric still have hydraulic as a backup (Q50 with DAS).
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 6:58 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > Also many new vehicles have electric power steering, which I assume still > works with the engine off, unless the battery is dead? Mine does, I guess > I could do an experiment. > > > > I think electric steering may play a role in automatic parallel parking, > and tuning the steering response for different driving modes. > > > > My 1969 Camaro had quick ratio manual steering, yet it had power brakes. > Go figure. I guess real men don’t use power steering. You learned to > never try and turn the steering wheel unless the car was moving. > Especially if you were also shifting gears. Texting while driving was not > an option, all your appendages were needed just to drive. Luckily texting > didn’t exist yet. > > > > BTW, it appears that pushbutton start ruled from 1915 to 1949 when key > start was introduced (as a safety feature). The original pushbutton start > replaced hand cranking which could break your arm if the crank kicked > back. That will make you cranky. > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes > *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:34 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: push button vehicles > > > > Power steering? No one needs that. My 2000 Saturn SL1 didn’t even have > power steering :) > > > On Dec 16, 2018, at 17:22, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > You turn the engine off you lose your power steering. > > > Put it in neutral and you lose your throttle putting power to the > transmission. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 2:07 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > > Had that happen several years ago. In Minnesota, in the winter. I don't > remember what the temperature was, but I know it has a "-" in front of it > and there was more than 1 digit. The driver had stepped on it (dry pavement > at least), but the throttle stuck. It was probably something in the > linkage. None-the-less, the immediate remedy at the moment was to turn off > the ignition. It almost worked flawlessly, but the guy turning the key went > one step too far, and also locked the steering wheel. Disaster was avoided > when he unlocked the steering wheel, but left the ignition off. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 12/16/2018 10:55 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Why would you emergency shut off the engine? That sounds absolutely > suicidal. > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:40 PM Matt Hoppes < > [email protected]> wrote: > > We are looking to refresh one of our SUVs. Everything seems to be going > push start - which scares me for several reasons: > > 1) key fob battery death - leaving you stranded. Apparently with most > vehicles there are hidden keys and slots. Ok. > > 2) needing to perform an emergency engine stop at highway speed. > Apparently you can hold the stop button for three seconds (which I might > add can be a very long time and a long distance at 70mph!) > > 3) that brings us to 3. Assuming the engine is forced to stop at highway > speed. How do you: a) put the vehicle into ACC mode so the wheel stays > unlocked b) attempt a restart of the engine (while shifted to neutral) > while the vehicle is still moving from previous engine momentum? > > Although this may seem trivial. I’ve had 2-3 instances over my 20 years of > driving where I’ve either had to dead stick a vehicle into a service > location because of a broken component that died at highway speed, or > another engine issue. In all cases, having to stop the vehicle to attempt > an engine restart would have caused me to get stranded rather than arrive > at a location where the vehicle could be serviced. > > #20YearsWithoutNeedingATow > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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