I didn’t think the deadline had arrived yet, and that the next step would be for Apple to present their arguments to the court.
Also I thought it was an older iPhone and what the govt wanted was for Apple to bypass the time delay between PIN tries and bricking the phone after 10 wrong tries, and then the govt would set up a robot to just try all the 4 digit PINs. From: Daniel White Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple The better question is the NSA so inept that their job that they can’t break into the phone themselves? Or do they just not want the world to know they can? Daniel White [email protected] Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn: Twitter From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple Every decent code writer at Apple that has access to the source code and a compiler has the tools to do this at will. With or without the knowledge or approval of Apple. Again, can someone give me an example of things I need to encrypt so securely that the NSA should not have access? Financial stuff is the domain of the IRS. They have the right to peek into all corners of your financial life. Post office has always had the right to open and read your mail. How is this any different? From: Jeremy Grip Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple My understanding--and Apple's representation--is that no one at Apple actually has the tools to do this. If they develop that ability in house then a human or humans then have those tools. This is then a de facto compromise of the security, humans being notoriously susceptible to corruption. What was that Machiavelli said about power?And possession of those tools is a lot of power. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:05 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote: As I understand it, that is exactly what the gov is asking them for. FBI wants Apple to decrypt and send over the data. Nothing more. No "software on every phone" to do this. Just that ONE phone. Get the data, then incinerate the device. On 2/19/2016 4:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote: But they're not actually asking for a back door, are they?� They're just saying 'hey, we have this physical device, can we give it to you, and you get us the data off of it'?� I've got to think that the Engineers at apple have a way to do this thought up.� Although at the same time, If they're trying to unlock the phone, couldn't the Gov't with it's vast resources, just simply make a bit by bit copy of the flash chip in the phone and just go through and try every unlock code? On 2/19/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Yup. Google agrees as well. On Feb 19, 2016 4:52 PM, "Sam Lambie" <[email protected]> wrote: Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right thing. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote: My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he think that Cook should be in Jail for failing to comply with the order.� On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: ... What? Seriously? On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: Treason? -- -- Sam Lambie Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. www.avast.com
