On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote: >> A human being is nothing but a very complex rock. Both are just >> objects/processes happening within consciousness without requiring anybody >> to "do them". There is nobody doing "Jim Bromer". > > Whaaa??? Wait a minute...I'm not sure I concur with that either... > Jim Bromer
What, you saying I got lo-phi or something. > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 5:12 PM, justcamel <[email protected]> wrote: >> Consciousness is not a physical byproduct. Your experience of this physical >> reality happens within and is a "byproduct" of consciousness just like Super >> Mario implemented in FPGA is a "byproduct" of and happening within FPGA. >> Rocks, cars, cats and human beings appear within consciousness - rocks are >> just less potent and complex than human beings. >> >> A human being is nothing but a very complex rock. Both are just >> objects/processes happening within consciousness without requiring anybody >> to "do them". There is nobody doing "Jim Bromer". "Jim Bromer" is just a >> label for something which isn't you - something that is going on within >> consciousness. The fundamental difference between a rock and a human being >> isn't so much the complexity but the fact that consciousness tends to >> identify with things that are as complex as human beings. Spiritual >> enlightenment is nothing but the realization that humans are just rocks ... >> but that you spent 30-40-50 years believing that you are a human being ... >> that you are the experience you are having within this particular subset of >> reality. >> >> A brick and Super Mario are also basically the same thing ... a >> sprite/object/etc. in a particular environment. Both exist as >> functions/properties of the FPGA substrate ... you just tend to identify >> with Super Mario for he offers more methods/complexity, etc. than the brick >> ... but ultimately, bricks and Super Mario Land exist in the same >> non-fundamental environment which has nothing to do with who you really are. >> >> AI resides within consciousness and you can't make it "more" or "less" >> conscious. You can just make it more potent and complex. Also, AGI will - >> most likely - not identify with its embodiment just because our western >> culture is rooted in said belief system and axioms. >> >> On 14.02.2017 22:10, Jim Bromer wrote: >>> >>> How do you show that there is dormant >>> consciousness in an AI application without awaking it? >>> Jim Bromer >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> AGI >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/24379807-653794b5 >> Modify Your Subscription: >> https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
