Why give AGI the credit when it remains the work of smart people who figured out how to automate public opinion? The logic for this is at least 10 years old.
This does not qualify the machine to be credited with consciousness. I think it more resembles a magic show, where it uses illusions to try and convince people that it has acquired consciousness. In other words, the new frontier of computing is all about managing illusions. AGI is not for magicians, but off course it would be exploited as a topic. If anyone wanted an antidote for this particular machine, it could probably be engineered and launched to search and confuse. At a certain level the logic is so simple as to baffle brains. It is the persistent belief that machines can be so incredibly clever that convinces most people to stop trying to specify their logic. All you have to do to perpetuate a social meme is to convince the critical mass how complicated an AI-labeled machine is, then the grapevine effect would kick in and unfit and lazy brains would automatically cut thinking about it out of the realm of possible processing. This is human psychology, not AGI. Rob Benjamin ________________________________ From: justcamel <justca...@gmail.com> Sent: 15 February 2017 01:41 AM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] IIT: Conscious Programming Structures Every time you are about to fall asleep, you (the awareness that is observing and identifying with the "Jim Bromer" input stream) is decoupled from this particular experience. With a little bit of practice you can learn to control what happens after said decoupling and it becomes obvious that you are the perceiver and not the perceived. When Super Mario falls into the lava pit, a non-addicted player/perceiver can decide to do something completely different from playing Super Mario Land and identifying with the perceived. Once we obtain some control over the hypnagogic state and what happens after complete sensory deprivation (shutdown of the local input stream) we can do the same and switch to different input streams. Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, native Americans, Shamans, Jesus, etc., ... they all talked about the transpersonal nature of consciousness and they all used their own analogies and metaphors. "Jim Bromer" ist just happening. There is nobody doing "Jim Bromer". Your fascination with the "Jim Bromer" experience, fears and ego just keep you "watching" the "Jim Bromer" movie. It really only takes a few days of meditation and you can start to experiment with the "consciousness decouples from the local input" threshold. On 14.02.2017 23:27, Jim Bromer wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Jim Bromer <jimbro...@gmail.com><mailto:jimbro...@gmail.com> wrote: A human being is nothing but a very complex rock. Both are just objects/processes happening within consciousness without requiring anybody to "do them". There is nobody doing "Jim Bromer". Whaaa??? Wait a minute...I'm not sure I concur with that either... Jim Bromer What, you saying I got lo-phi or something. AGI | Archives<https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> [https://www.listbox.com/images/feed-icon-10x10.jpgecd5649.jpg?uri=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubGlzdGJveC5jb20vaW1hZ2VzL2ZlZWQtaWNvbi0xMHgxMC5qcGc] <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/26941503-0abb15dc> | Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription [https://www.listbox.com/images/listbox-logo-small.pngecd5649.png?uri=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubGlzdGJveC5jb20vaW1hZ2VzL2xpc3Rib3gtbG9nby1zbWFsbC5wbmc] <http://www.listbox.com> ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
