The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 47 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: E36 Knock Sensor Location e39 M5 DEFECTIVE rim replacement help E36 M3 Tie rod adjustment Re: E36 M3 Tie rod adjustment e36 crash bolts (was: E36 M3 Tie rod adjustment) WTB E36 M3, 2 or 4 door, 5spd Dealers Price Going Up Re: Dealers Price Going Up Re: Dealers Price Going Up Re: Dealers Price Going Up Re: Dealers Price Going Up What are the chances of a bad "new" alternator <misc> Moving to Jacksonville, need a mechanic Independant Mechanic Arlington TX Re: Independant Mechanic Arlington TX
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:32:34 -0800 From: Knute Ream <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: E36 Knock Sensor Location Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 06:20 PM 2/26/2004 -0800, henry butt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi listers > >Can someone tell me where the knock sensor is located >in the E36 325i engine. Does it need to be replaced >if pinking is consistant under hard acceleration on >start-ups, even using 92 octane gas ! Any info will >greatly be appreciated. > >Henry Henry: you don't mention what year your car is, which is indeed relevant. The knock sensor didn't appear on the M50 (at least for the US market, and I suspect that also applies to Canada) until the '93 model year, with the introduction of the M50tu, which added VaNoS along with the knock sensor. If 325 is earlier than 93, no knock sensor. -Knute (wishing my aging '92 525i-that-complains-about-crappy-91-octane-California-gas had a knock sensor) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:57:21 -0800 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: e39 M5 DEFECTIVE rim replacement help Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Group, I'm told that BMW was exchanging stock rims from e39 M5's that were chipping and/or had evidence of what looked like a black-paint overspray. My M5 is out of warranty...Not by much...But I am the second owner and the 1st owner never did anything about it. Does anyone have any information on this campaign/recall/swap out that would be helpful in my negotiating with my dealer to get the rims swapped? Any information would be helpful. Chris 89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com <http://www.inlacal.com/> 01 X5 91 M5 98 M Roadster 00 M5 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:48:35 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: E36 M3 Tie rod adjustment Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knew: 1) How much a turn of the tie-rod increases the toe-in on the front of an E36 ('98 M3) 2) By how much will the addition of another degree of negative camber (in the front end) affect the toe I plan to shim the lower mounts on my front struts ('98 E36 M3) to increase the camber from -1.1 to -2.1 degrees this weekend. I bought a SmartCamber gauge and also a toe-guage. After adding the additional degree, I plan to re-adjust the tie-rods equally to get about 1/16" total toe-in (which is what I presently have). Thanks! Colin '98 M3 (Dinan suspension, Conforti intake + software...) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:06:19 -0500 From: "Steve Stoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36 M3 Tie rod adjustment Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Colin Don't know the answer to your questions specifically, but if you swap the strut hats left to right (free) and get camber correction crash bolts from the dealer ($5) you can get your neg camber that way. I was able to get up to about 4 degrees negative with this simple low cost approach. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:29:37 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: e36 crash bolts (was: E36 M3 Tie rod adjustment) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Steve Stoner wrote: > Don't know the answer to your questions specifically, but if you swap > the strut hats left to right (free) and get camber correction crash > bolts from the dealer ($5) you can get your neg camber that way. I was > able to get up to about 4 degrees negative with this simple low cost > approach. Regarding crash bolts... The ones I'm familier with are a bolt with a slightly smaller diameter, so that the strut/spindle interface can be moved around a bit before tightening. They've all been for cars that had two through bolts in the direction of the length of the car, one at the top and one at the bottom, holding the strut to the spindle. On the '93 325is, the bottom of the strut is bolted to the spindle with two bolts aimed toward the outside of the car. What I'd been planning to do for camber until I got CC plates was to just put a spacers between the strut and the spindle. I can't remember how the top of the spindle is held to the strut. Is that a "regular" lengthwise through hole that a crash bolt can work in? Thanks! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:37:22 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: WTB E36 M3, 2 or 4 door, 5spd Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Looking for something under $15K. Any year, any colour. Sound body and clean interior, mechanicals don't have to be perfect. Thanks Brett Anderson KMS --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:20:56 -0600 From: "Celisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Dealers Price Going Up Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wonder has anyone been to Moritz BMW lately for an oil change. I have had one of the most expensive oil changes you could ever imagine. Right now, the techs are being paid $100.00 an hour. Now I haven't joined BMWCCA, but I will soon. I did belong to it, but let it expire, I still have the sticker on my car, and I sure used it when told I had to pay a total of $174.00 for oil change and windshield wipers. I said do you guys give discounts to BMWCCA, the guy said yes, 10%, and that bought it down to $154.00. I was then told, I would soon need brakes, and would I like for them to do it then. I said no, I'll wait on the light to come on to alert me. I called Autoscope, I think is the name, and I'm going there, so I don't have to pay $400.00 dollars for front brakes and pads. If I sound cheap, and if someone wants to call me that, than I am, but I'm tired of being a sucker for the ones that like to drain you. Celisa '99 328is ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:16:39 -0600 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dealers Price Going Up Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I PAID for extra oil changes on my 330i, I could not stand the thought of leaving the oil and filter in there until the service monitor said it was time for a free change. I think the local BMW dealer charged me around $75 for the service, and I got a free loaner car and a complementary car wash and vacuum. I will likely do the same on the M5, but it will cost even more. They don't reset the service monitor, so I still get my free service when it is time. I think once the free maintenance has run out on my current car, I will likely take it elsewhere for this kind of thing - and only back to the dealer for warranty items. Both of my bosses own BMWs and continued to take them to the dealer for everything once the warranty ran out on their cars. MAN, they were spending thousands for stuff. I tried to tell them to go to an independent shop I and I would come pick them up. The BMW service department seems first rate at my local dealer and they "treat me like a king" and give me a nice 3 series loaner car. I guess they can afford to be so nice since they charge so much for out of warranty service. P.S. Am I the only one that likes the smell of that BMW windshield wiper fluid :-) ? Dennis 01 M5 silver/black At 11:20 AM 02/27/2004 -0600, Celisa wrote: >I wonder has anyone been to Moritz BMW lately for an oil change. I have had >one of the most expensive oil changes you could ever imagine. Right now, the >techs are being paid $100.00 an hour. Now I haven't joined BMWCCA, but I >will soon. I did belong to it, but let it expire, I still have the sticker >on my car, and I sure used it when told I had to pay a total of $174.00 for >oil change and windshield wipers. I said do you guys give discounts to >BMWCCA, the guy said yes, 10%, and that bought it down to $154.00. I was >then told, I would soon need brakes, and would I like for them to do it >then. I said no, I'll wait on the light to come on to alert me. I called >Autoscope, I think is the name, and I'm going there, so I don't have to pay >$400.00 dollars for front brakes and pads. If I sound cheap, and if someone >wants to call me that, than I am, but I'm tired of being a sucker for the >ones that like to drain you. > > Celisa >'99 328is > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:46:07 -0500 From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Dealers Price Going Up Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -> -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Dennis Wynne -> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:17 PM -> I PAID for extra oil changes on my 330i, I could not stand -> the thought of leaving the oil and filter in there until the -> service monitor said it was time for a free change. Not picking on Dennis, but I have yet to understand this so called 'ignorance' of all the data that proves synthetics last much longer than even the BMW service monitor states for oil changes. I just don't get it. Has anyone out there EVER had a proven oil failure or damage to a motor from going 10-15k miles on a oil change? I have done extensive oil testing on heavy equipment and my own cars. 15k on a synthetic is nothing with proper filtering. People who change oil at 3000 miles should bear the burden of the extra costs of dealing with that much contaminated oil. Do yourself and your neighbors of this world a favor, test the oil in your car and change it when it needs changing, not 10k miles before hand. Mike In the construction biz, landfills and hazardous clean ups. If you have seen what I have, you would reconsider or maybe you will be lucky enough to have it in your backyard one day. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:11:23 -0500 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Dealers Price Going Up Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That's insane! I thought I was cheap too, but making the oil change a DIY for $45 is worth it. Invest in a set of Rhino Ramps, 17mm socket and a large adjustable crescent wrench. I get Mobil 1 for cheap at Walmart --buy it in bulk. Now I don't have to deal with the Dealer, or the inherent skirt factor that goes along with it! Good Luck! Josie ---also a '99 328is ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:44:56 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Dealers Price Going Up Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Celisa, I would say that place is a bonafide rip-off shop. You can tell them I said so. $100 for an oil change. That's preposterous. I felt creepy inside when a buddy was charged $50 locally for an oil change. Now, I can see $50 being reasonable. Techs have to be paid, there's about $5 in parts & $15 worth of oil. But even so, I'd think a local shop who wants your business would be pretty reasonable. I do them myself, but know where I could get it done for around $30 here at a local indy--not only that, it's the indy shop I respect the most. The wipers are only $20 on top of that. The wipers are something you can do yourself, as there are no tools required. You will save yourself a lot of trouble by learning little things like replacing wipers & light bulbs. About the brakes, I bet they're suckering you. I recently got the same thing about by 01 Saab. Guy called me up & told me the brakes were less than 5%, which I knew was crap as I had just rotated the tires. These guys should know better as I'm kinda a wrench-head. Anyway, he quoted me $490 for front brakes. I told him I'd do them myself & he gave me the whole sleazy, "well, I don't know if I can let the car leave the shop like this because of safety." I told him I was coming right over to have a look & all of a sudden, he backed down. When I picked up the car, the other writer gave me the same crap. I marched out onto the shop floor where the car was sitting & indicated that the pads were a finger thick (about 1/2). If they were really at 5% that would mean that the wheels would have to be about 3 feet wide to accomodate them...... If they're hitting you for $400, they're either marking the parts price WAAAAAY up or charging you for 2.5 hours of labor. A local brake store is offering $99 religns here. I wouldn't go there, but that gives you an idea of the disparity in price. I bet your brakes have a suitable amount left in them. BTW, replacing brake pads & rotors is really a pretty simple task, so don't let them fool you into thinking they're doing major work. Find a good local shop through local club members. When you have your oil changed, ask them if there's anything else (be unspecific) that needs to be done. A good local shop will keep the removed parts to show you if you want & even explain what it does & how it fails, & so on. I bet money if I paid Brett or Kirk to do work on a car & then asked to see what came out, they would happily show me & explain to me what happened. I have a buddy who recently paid a buttload to get a flex disk replaced on a 45k Z3 1.8, auto (i.e. this part shouldn't have failed). When he called me I told him to get the part as the car wasn't really showing any symptoms of failure & it's almost new. Of course, he got the whole.....oh the trashman just came thing. That was among the $1900 worth of work he had done on a pretty new car, which is out of warranty time-wise. I recommended another place..... I was always taught growing up that your first instinct is usually correct. I would say through reading your e-mail that your first instinct is that the local dealer is ripping you off. I'll leave the deductive reasoning up to you...... Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Celisa > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [UUC] Dealers Price Going Up > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I wonder has anyone been to Moritz BMW lately for an oil > change. I have had > one of the most expensive oil changes you could ever imagine. > Right now, the > techs are being paid $100.00 an hour. Now I haven't joined > BMWCCA, but I > will soon. I did belong to it, but let it expire, I still > have the sticker > on my car, and I sure used it when told I had to pay a total > of $174.00 for > oil change and windshield wipers. I said do you guys give discounts to > BMWCCA, the guy said yes, 10%, and that bought it down to > $154.00. I was > then told, I would soon need brakes, and would I like for > them to do it > then. I said no, I'll wait on the light to come on to alert > me. I called > Autoscope, I think is the name, and I'm going there, so I > don't have to pay > $400.00 dollars for front brakes and pads. If I sound cheap, > and if someone > wants to call me that, than I am, but I'm tired of being a > sucker for the > ones that like to drain you. > > Celisa > '99 328is > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of > the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:55:01 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What are the chances of a bad "new" alternator Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Okay went a few days, only a few miles, with my auto-express reman. bosch 140 Amp alternator installed. There were a few minor squeals just after start-up and take off, but fine otherwise. Volt meter readings were right on 14, everything seemed kosher. Here is the mystery - yesterday I put a brand new BMW drive belt on and now the alternator sings like a stuck pig. The pulley turns but the noise is terrible. I started it this morning again and no noise, but I'm very afraid of driving it given the noise last night. The noise was definitely coming from the alternator - unmistakable, though I will check the tensioner pulley tonight. HELP - any suggestions? I've already got auto-express shipping another one, but could this be anything else I'm missing. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:06:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: <misc> Moving to Jacksonville, need a mechanic Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Looking for a good independant mechanic in the Jacksonville, Fl area. - Kevin Jay '96 328is, red/tan, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, stock motor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:24:33 -0600 From: "Celisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Independant Mechanic Arlington TX Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Looking for a good independant mechanic in the Arlington TX area. I just hate that I have to go so far for service. I'm next going to Autoscope, I think is the name in Dallas, but I sure wish I could find an independant mechanic in Arlington. If anyone knows, do let me know, thanks so much in advance. Celisa '99 328is ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:34:08 -0500 From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Independant Mechanic Arlington TX Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Didn't someone just say that Autoscope gouged them? Mike -> -----Original Message----- -> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celisa -> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:25 PM -> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> Subject: [UUC] Independant Mechanic Arlington TX -> -> -> Search the -> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -> -> -> -> -> -> -> Looking for a good independant mechanic in the Arlington TX -> area. I just hate that I have to go so far for service. I'm -> next going to Autoscope, I think is the name in Dallas, but -> I sure wish I could find an independant mechanic in -> Arlington. If anyone knows, do let me know, thanks so much -> in advance. -> -> Celisa -> '99 328is -> -> _____________________________________________________________ -> _____________ -> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of -> the BMW CCA. -> -> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the -> Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 -> . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com -> ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
