The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 52 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Top side oil changes Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) Re: <misc> top-side oil changers Re: Another Reason Why I like Car Talk <OT on UUC> Re: Anyone Have Comments on Axxis Ultimate Brake Pads? Re: Oil Change Frequency Re: Oil Change Frequency Re: Oil Change Frequency Thanks for Info on Axxis Ultimates Re: Thanks for Info on Axxis Ultimates E46 Suspension Info Needed Re: NYC Car Stuff Re: MoreTrack tire decisions Team Dynamics wheels
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 12:15:30 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Top side oil changes Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Feb 29, 2004, at 11:21 AM, Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) wrote: > So is there a better manufacturer of these things? Any specific > recommendations? >I purchased my father a Pela PL-650 and he has >been very happy with it. I got an extractor off of fleabay which looks just like the Big Pela and Griot's but with a different label. It works fine. I find that if the oil is good and hot it works pretty quickly, but colder oil does take forever (AMHIK: I once changed the oil when the car had been driven recently so did not warm it up again). I also like that I can extract the oil from the filter canister on the E34, before pulling out the filter element, then again afterwards. Makes for less spillage and less old oil in with the new. I have another question. If you look at the Griot's catalogue (I get them every other week or so it seems), they have a brake fluid extractor which looks just like their oil extractor except with different tubing and a valve to control the suction. I called up their customer service to see if they would sell the tubing separately but got nowhere. It seems that it wouldn't be too hard to source the parts. Does anybody have any recommendations? Jon __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:23:23 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reed, There must be something wrong with yours or you haven't properly warmed the engine. I also have the Griot's model and it only takes about 10-15 mins for a complete pull. If the oil is cold/thick it can take longer. My only complaint is the size. It holds 6.5l but if I'm running a little high because I sometimes overfill for the track, it will overfill and make a mess if I'm not careful. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:08:00 -0800 From: "Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <misc> top-side oil changers Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have the one from Griot's. Used it for the first time a week ago. Works as advertised, just realize it takes about an hour to pull all the oil out, as the extraction tubing is quite small, to fit down the dipstick tube. Reed/Seattle ********** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:30:12 -0800 From: "Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't know, the oil was warm and I used the larger of the two extraction tubes. I don't really mind that it took an hour, it just surprised me. Oh well. > > There must be something wrong with yours or you haven't properly warmed the > engine. > > I also have the Griot's model and it only takes about 10-15 mins for a > complete pull. If the oil is cold/thick it can take longer. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:51:05 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <misc> top-side oil changers Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] <misc> top-side oil changers >I'll second the nomination for the 8L mityvac. Takes about >15 mins to extract oil. I bet it would be really quick if you hooked up the pump to a fitting like this: http://www.robertlevinson.com/lol/tube_fitting.jpg It just goes right into the drain plug hole. Cool, huh? - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:33:02 -0600 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Another Reason Why I like Car Talk <OT on UUC> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey, they DO actually give out some car advice every once in a while :-) It is by far my favorite radio show, and some times it is side-splitting funny. I thought I would injure myself, for example, when I first heard the "sending vowels to Bosnia" letter. Dennis 91 M5 silver/black At 11:52 AM 2/29/04 -0800, you wrote: >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Car Talk is a humor radio show pretending to be a car advice radio >show on the PBS network in the U.S. > >This weekend's show included a caller who wanted to know which way his >plastic dashboard Jesus should be facing. He had it facing forward to >bless the roads on which he would travel, but his friends told him it >should be facing into the car to bless the driver and passengers. Tom >and Ray (a.k.a. Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers) advised that it >should be facing into the car. It was not big enough to bless all of >the roads ahead of the car. If the caller wanted a Jesus statue that >could bless all the roads, it would have to be a lot bigger and >mounted on the roof. As an alternative, the caller could have 15 or >20 plastic Jesus statues, one facing in and the rest on the dash >facing out. > >Then Click and Clack noted that there used to be a lot of plastic >Jesus statues in the old days of metal dashboards, since there was a >magnet in the base. You don't see as many now because the top of the >dash is plastic. The caller said he held his on with duct tape. > >You just can't make up stuff this funny. Well, maybe Porridgehead >can. > >Scott Miller > > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:33:02 -0600 From: Fernando Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone Have Comments on Axxis Ultimate Brake Pads? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh, yes. The beading was scary. So be careful. It took quite a bit of 60ish to 30ish stopping for then to start doing any decent braking. Fernando On Feb 29, 2004, at 4:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:28:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Anyone Have Comments on Axxis Ultimate Brake Pads? > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sat, 28 Feb 2004, Scott & Charlotte Miller wrote: >> I'm thinking about trying a set of Axxis Ultimates for street and >> autocross. Can anyone with experience provide any insight? > > Scott, > > A friend of mine runs Axxis Ultimates on his Subaru WRX along with some > stock-sized rotors from StopTech on a stock WRX brake system. He's > done > some amount of track schools, and a huge amount of autocross (in the > Bay > Area SCCA in fact), and is very happy with the brake pads. The stock > WRX > brake system is apparently quite a POS, and his warped after one day at > California Speedway (which is quite nasty on brakes, comparable or > worse > than turn 2 at Laguna Seca). After replacement, he's had no issues at > the > track schools he's run (Sears Point and Buttonwillow, which are > admittedly > easier on the brakes even though he was in faster run groups). Noise > is > same as stock, while dusting seems BMW-like, and the brake dust is > kind of > rust-colored. He reports needing higher pedal effort. They work well > cold. > > The bedding process was interesting as the pads were dangerously > useless > the first 4 or 5 runs of 60-5 MPH pedal-to-floor braking, and then the > pads came to life very suddenly on the 6th run or so, unlike the stock > BMW > pads which are progressive in their bedding. So be careful where you > bed > the brakes. > > --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:48:21 -0800 From: "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Oil Change Frequency Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary, I forget the viscosity for sure, but I think it was 20W-50. Even at 150K miles the Typhoon didn't really use any oil. John Kjos '99 540i/6: Dinan S '01 525iTa: Stock Portland, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] Oil Change Frequency > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Thanks for correcting me on that. I thought that was before GM called for > Mobil 1. What viscosity did they spec, 10W-30? > > Gary Derian > > > Gary, > > > > When you are right you are right. But you are not right here. Typhoons and > > Cyclones all came from the factory (actual a shop in Alabama that did the > > mods to the standard SUVs and pickups) with Mobil 1. The owners manual > > specified that ONLY Mobil 1 could be used, not any other type of synthetic > > was acceptable let alone dyno stuff. > > > > You are right in that the engine area was always very hot. Man, could you > > feel the difference in performance on a dry (for traction) freezing > > temperature day. It was like an extra 20-30HP compared to Summer days in > > Phoenix. > > > > John Kjos > > '99 540i/6: Dinan S > > '01 525iTa: Stock > > Portland, OR > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:09:56 -0800 From: "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Oil Change Frequency Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scott, How could I have screwed that up after so many years in the Ty/Sy community. Geeezzzz. You have jogged my memory yet again, as I was using something like 0W-40 oil for faster turbo lubing reasons. Man, the memory ain't what it used to be. John Kjos '99 540i/6: Dinan S '01 525iTa: Stock Portland, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Hung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [UUC] Oil Change Frequency > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [From: "Gary Derian"] > > Thanks for correcting me on that. I thought that was before GM called for > > Mobil 1. What viscosity did they spec, 10W-30? > > I think so. I could tell you but the shop manuals are in the truck and > sister is borrowing it. I actually run 5W-30 because I figure the lower > viscosity can't be bad for turbo bearings when the oil's cold. > > > [John Kjos:] > >>When you are right you are right. But you are not right here. Typhoons and > >>Cyclones all came from the factory (actual a shop in Alabama that did the > >>mods to the standard SUVs and pickups) with Mobil 1. > > John! I'm so disappointed. Of all the people on this list I'd expect you to > know how to spell Syclone! 8^) BTW, I thought PAS was in Michigan? > > ObBmw: It's interesting how many people I've seen on the Internet end up > in BMWs! > > Scott > '99 M3 > '91 Syclone #892 > '87 LX 5.0 > '73 240z > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:44:14 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Oil Change Frequency Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Car guys all end up there sooner or later, once they get past the yuppie pr!ck thing and decide they want to drive the best. Gary Derian > ObBmw: It's interesting how many people I've seen on the Internet end up > in BMWs! > > Scott > '99 M3 > '91 Syclone #892 > '87 LX 5.0 > '73 240z > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:59:06 -0800 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E30 Yahoo Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Thanks for Info on Axxis Ultimates Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just wanted to say thanks to Steven Schlossman, Trent D, Chris Bauer, Peter Guagenti, Jim Ochi, Fernando Mujica, Larry T, Andre Yew, and anyone else whom I may have accidentally omitted. I have yet to see one negative comment on the Axxis Ultimates, so I'll have to buy a set. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:37:19 -0600 From: "Timothy J Toohey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Thanks for Info on Axxis Ultimates Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scott sez> Just wanted to say thanks to Steven Schlossman, Trent D, Chris Bauer, Peter Guagenti, Jim Ochi, Fernando Mujica, Larry T, Andre Yew, and anyone else whom I may have accidentally omitted. Wonderful, Scott. Now get off the stage. :) Tim Toohey '89 325is -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott & Charlotte Miller Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 9:59 PM To: UUC Digest; E30 Yahoo Group Subject: [UUC] Thanks for Info on Axxis Ultimates Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wanted to say thanks to Steven Schlossman, Trent D, Chris Bauer, Peter Guagenti, Jim Ochi, Fernando Mujica, Larry T, Andre Yew, and anyone else whom I may have accidentally omitted. I have yet to see one negative comment on the Axxis Ultimates, so I'll have to buy a set. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:58:30 -0800 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: E46 Suspension Info Needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rumor has it that the original U.S. E46 330i had a base suspension and a sport package optional suspension, but that at some point the sport suspension became standard on U.S. cars. Another rumor has it that the standard suspension on the E46 330Ci is the same (or really close) as the 330i sport package suspension. Can anyone help verify this information? Does anyone know when these rumored changes took place? The Golden Gate Chapter BMW CCA's autocross classification team appreciates your help. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:38:12 -0500 From: "Nancy Fluharty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: NYC Car Stuff Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My inquiry about NYC Car Stuff got several responses about DRIVING in NY and the attendant craziness. Great stuff! But I was hoping for some suggestions about car-related stuff to see or do, since we will be carless for the duration. Any suggestions, touristy or not, walkable or cabable from mid-town? Bob Fluharty ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:07:11 -0600 From: "M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MoreTrack tire decisions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Jim. Confirms what I pretty much felt, I'll just have to pay up... Mark Kittock '96 328i > > At 06:17 AM 2/28/04, M Kittock talked about: > >I used to run Toyos a few years ago, but have been just running on street > >tires the last few years. I plan on returning to R tires again this spring > >and was just planning on picking up a set of Toyos - until I called for > >pricing yesterday and found out they've gone up quite a bit. > >So, I'm wondering about the Kumho Victoracers in terms of their wear. I'm > >not so much worried about ultimate speed, then I wouldn't be looking at > >Toyos or Kumhos. Other than being a bit squirmy when brand new, I loved > >the Toyos. But, in my size it looks like the Victoracer is about 25% > >cheaper - so if the Victoracer only last 1/2 of the Toyo its not a good > >deal.... Any comparisons? > > I ran RA-1s on the M3 for ~3 years when I tracked it, and raced on them off > and on with the 325is (235/45/17). Lately I've been racing on Victoracers > (255/40/17). > > The Victoracers are cheaper, but are also faster and don't wear as long. > I've run full-tread and shaved RA-1s, and only shaved Victoracers. > Comparing shaved vs shaved, the Toyos last about twice as long, IME. The > full-tread ones even longer. > > Even with the recent price hike on the Toyos, I still think they are a > great tire for drivers schools/lapping days/etc. I still use them on the > race car for instructing days as well as street/rain tires. > > No experience with the Hankook tires. > > My 2 cents, > > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:22:13 -0600 From: "M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Team Dynamics wheels Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bimmerworld sells the Team Dynamics wheels - anyone have any experience with these? I don't need the light weight for racing, they will only be used for driver schools with R tires. But I do need a inexpensive, strong wheel - and the fact they are available in black saves me refinishing another wheel to black (my preferred wheel color). Just want to make sure they would hold up to street use also. TIA!! Mark Kittock '96 328i Sport pkg, many mods... ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
