The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 38 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Re: <E36> Worst Job (was Front Door Handle R&R) Re: <E36> Worst Job (was Front Door Handle R&R) Re: <E36> Worst Job (was Front Door Handle R&R) Re: <E36> Oil Drain Fittings was: Worst Job Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Car Shipping changing oil in your pajamas? Re: changing oil in your pajamas? Re: <E36> Oil Drain Fittings was: Worst Job 24# injectors: more
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:19:15 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -----Original Message----- > My Audi 90Q seems to be about the same way. Are nice oil filter > locations a > VAG thing ? I don't know about VW, but Chevy can't seem to make up their mind. Most Chevy V engines have the filter mounted upside down at the left rear of the block. Kathy's 2000 Tahoe requires you to venture under the vehicle to get to it, and the drain plug. The filter dumps oil all over itself, and the drain plug is located above a stepped metal plate that creates a catch pan for about 1/2 a pint of oil before it starts to over run the plate and drop into the pan. But... My 95 Blazer has the oil filter remote mounted just behind the radiator, with a nice little access door in the underbody plastics to get to it, and the oil drain plug only about 12 inches further back, with no interference. You'd at least expect consistency within the one manufacturer, but nooooo.... Brett Anderson KMS --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:40:01 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Will puncturing the oil filter let the oil drain into the pan? Gary Derian Brett A wrote: > I don't know about VW, but Chevy can't seem to make up their mind. Most > Chevy V engines have the filter mounted upside down at the left rear of the > block. Kathy's 2000 Tahoe requires you to venture under the vehicle to get > to it, and the drain plug. The filter dumps oil all over itself, and the > drain plug is located above a stepped metal plate that creates a catch pan > for about 1/2 a pint of oil before it starts to over run the plate and drop > into the pan. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:22:08 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36> Worst Job (was Front Door Handle R&R) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10 minutes after the car is in the air? I was being generous. >From bottom, remove small "shield" plate mounted to frame rail. Loosen filter bracket securing bolt. Remove feed hose from bottom of filter. >From top, remove outlet hose from fuel rail, allow filter to fall to ground. Swap feed hose to new filter, slide it into bracket, tighten bracket, install feed hose to filter, replace shield. Go up top, install outlet hose on fuel rail. Done. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > Wow, I need to practice a lot more to get this down to a 10 minute > ordeal. > > Chris B. > '94 325i > > -----Original Message----- > I think, as far as jobs go, the fuel filter on the OBDI cars is the > worst > job one can need to perform on an E36. > > Not because it's particularly horrible, but because it *should* be a > real > simple 30 second job, and the managed to turn it into a 10 minute > ordeal. > > Brett Anderson > KMS --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:25:56 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36> Worst Job (was Front Door Handle R&R) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whenever I have an intake off, or an engine out, I epoxy the starter nuts to the starter. Just like whenever I install a tie rod assembly, I completely dismantle it and use copious amounts of anti-seize on it before installation. Somewhere out there, I'd like to think, there are hundreds of mechanics thanking "the guy that did this" under their breath, while their doing a starter, or wheel alignment. Funny though, I've NEVER got a car into to my place, or any dealer I ever worked at, that had the same courtesy performed by the guy before.... Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > Neil, > > Yeah, a starter with nut/bolt instead of nut/stud > is a real pain. I ended up using crazy glue to > hold the nut in place while I threaded the bolt > from the back. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:47:59 -0500 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E36> Worst Job (was Front Door Handle R&R) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 9:25 PM -0500 2/20/04, Brett Anderson wrote: >Somewhere out there, I'd like to think, there are hundreds of mechanics >thanking "the guy that did this" under their breath, while their doing a >starter, or wheel alignment. Probably few thanking you under their breath but many more would be cursing out loud if you didn't take a little extra time to do it right. In this world, it all comes around. -- ...steven TechFest East http://www.nccbmwcca.org/techfesteast 2003 Mini Cooper S 1996 BMW 328ti ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:39:33 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E36> Oil Drain Fittings was: Worst Job Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:35 PM 2/20/04, Brian Daley talked about: >Maybe the brace is different. The convertible brace (actually better >described as a plate) has a hole in it to access the drain plug and it's a >pretty small hole at that. Ahhh, I recall seeing that. Different than what I was referring to. Which begs the question, was the x-brace introduced on the convertibles after '94? I know it was part of the trunk kit for the M3 LTW, and thought it was also used on convertibles. Hmmm. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:05:34 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, but that's a very bad idea. Right along the lines of draining the diff or trans fluid BEFORE opening the fill plug. What happens (and I've seen it) if you can't get the filter off after you've punctured it? Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > > Will puncturing the oil filter let the oil drain into the pan? > Gary Derian > > Brett A wrote: > The filter dumps oil all over > itself, > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 1/28/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:09:54 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Loosen it first, but not so much that the oil leaks. Gary Derian > > Yes, but that's a very bad idea. Right along the lines of draining the > diff or trans fluid BEFORE opening the fill plug. > > What happens (and I've seen it) if you can't get the filter off after you've > punctured it? > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Will puncturing the oil filter let the oil drain into the pan? > > Gary Derian > > > > Brett A wrote: > > The filter dumps oil all over > > itself, ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:12:26 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm going to install a remote filter in my GM tow vehicle so that I don't have that damn problem. Either that or roll the truck onto it's roof when it's time to drain the oil. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brett Anderson Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:06 PM To: UUC Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] Nice Oil Filter Jobs Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but that's a very bad idea. Right along the lines of draining the diff or trans fluid BEFORE opening the fill plug. What happens (and I've seen it) if you can't get the filter off after you've punctured it? Brett Anderson KMS >__________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:18:34 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nice Oil Filter Jobs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Feb 20, 2004, at 8:05 PM, Brett Anderson wrote: > Yes, but that's a very bad idea. Right along the lines of draining > the > diff or trans fluid BEFORE opening the fill plug. > > What happens (and I've seen it) if you can't get the filter off after > you've > punctured it? I *almost* had this happen to me the first time I changed the oil in the truck (it's a massive filter, apparently installed by trained gorillas on the assembly line). Never again will I puncture the filter before removal (I was attempting to puncture it with a screwdriver and use it for leverage). - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:16:51 -0800 (PST) From: Kyle Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC BMW LIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yahoo E30 Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Car Shipping Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My brother is going to be buying a car here in the Bay Area of Califorina and shipping it to North Caralina. Any got any frist hand experinces with any car transport companys? Whats the normal price range? And any other head's up would be great. Thanks Kyle Sanchez 89' 325i Mom's got a Z3. Dad just bought a 740i. Brother soon to own a E30. Taking over the world next. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:11:38 -0800 From: Steve Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: changing oil in your pajamas? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We are once again going through the thread of gravity drain vs vacuum drain. I am on the vacuum drain side of the fence. One thing has always bothered me about the gravity method, and the question of particulate retention in the crankcase. Do those of you that gravity drain always lower your car back onto the ground while it drains? It seems to me that if the car is left jacked up while draining, there would be a significant quantity of oil retained in the crankcase, along with the alleged accumulation of sludge. With the vacuum method, the car remains flat on the ground, and at least on my car, the dipstick tube seems to enter the crankcase at its lowest point. I always get exactly 8 quarts out of the crankcase, plus or minus a tablespoon or so. I agree with John Bolhuis, the filter is designed to take the particulate out of circulation, so they are not a major concern. The vacuum method is so quick and clean, I could change oil in a coat & tie while waiting for my wife to finish putting on her war paint. :-) Cheers Steve Albrecht ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:42:27 -0800 From: steve lyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: changing oil in your pajamas? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What are you guys doin' to your pajamas that necessitates an oil change? s.ly Steve Albrecht wrote: > <snip> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 22:16:12 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E36> Oil Drain Fittings was: Worst Job Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Feb 20, 2004, at 6:11 PM, Brett Anderson wrote: >> The cool thing about these trucks is that you don't need to jack them >> up to drain the oil. :) >> > > You do need to jack them up if you have running boards..... The one > downside of installing them on Kathy's tow vehicle, it totally changed > the > dynamics of the oil changes. I opted for nerf bars. No jack needed! - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:55:09 -0800 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 24# injectors: more Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 24# injectors: Just got back from a "little" ride after installing them in the E36 //M3. Whacked the computer back to scratch, turned the fuel pressure down to ~55 instead of 59, and vroom vroom off on on the highways, trip computer buttons clicking away. The biggest surprise is the fuel economy. Higher when driving the cruise control version of a standard late night loop. With 50 degree air, over 33mph with cruise on a steady 79. Last night I drove it for reference and got 28.7. I anticpated more power, but the bottom and middle increase was unexpected. Top end might be about the same. Both injectors are Bosch, but there are differences besides just the capacity. The Mustang Cobra injectors have a smooth longer cone section spreading outward from the pintle, while the //M3 injectors have a larger pintle with sort of cross ridges molded on a plastic 'hat' that the pintle sprays through. Thinking what the Mustang is likely tuned for, tar smoking off the line torque, maybe that explains the difference. Before the cruise control loop I did the 'readapt the computer so it will idle and acelerate' loop. This gave about 26 mpg economy, with about a couple of dozen 60 to 80 third gear passes timed with a stopwatch. Prior was typically 3.05 to 3.15 when I hit the watch buttons at the correct times. After the first bunch of passes, the times settled down to the 3.0 to 3.1 range. No 0-60 times because I value my clutch. Easy starts and then punching a 1-2 up to 60 didn't need a stopwatch to see that there's something nicer than before happening in my motor with the additional fuel these injectors are providing for the additional air the home made 3 1/4 inch HFM tube lets through. So with stock injectors at the safe limit of 60psi, (and a larger HFM) the dyno says you'll gain 8-10 hp at the rear wheels, but still with an air/fuel ratio at WOT of 13:1, on the lean side if you're going for max power, you are not getting all fuel the engine can make power with if your engine has a euro hfm or homemade larger tube. With the 24# injectors, well I'll wait until I get some good dyno runs to give numbers and air/fuel ratios for various fuel pressures but subjectively its darn clear that I just added a bunch of low end and midrange torqe to my car. The cost of buying new injectors is more than I could justify spending, but for $107.50 winning bid on EBay for eight of them, I had to give it a try. Many thanks to whoever posted the EBay auction info earlier this week. Barry ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
