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  test post
  Re: test post
  Re: [E28] approx. weight  of e28 535i fuel tank
  Re: Trans fluid change procedure
  Re: E36 M3 pads and rotors 
  Re: Stuck Transmission filling plug (e36)
  Re: Stuck Transmission filling plug (e36)
  Dyno Speeds: Was Alutec or ASA wheels
  Re: Dyno Speeds: Was Alutec or ASA wheels
  Re: Dyno Speeds: Was Alutec or ASA wheels
  Re: 220mph Dyno Run
  Re: E36 M3 pads and rotors
  Re: <E38> Trans Fluid Change Question
  Re: Alutec or ASA wheels
  Re: Alutec or ASA wheels

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:26:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test post
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

did this go through?  sorry for the interuption.

-paul

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 15:50:22 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: test post
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Nope, did not see it

:-)


At 01:26 PM 03/02/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>did this go through?  sorry for the interuption.
>
>-paul
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:36:04 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [E28] approx. weight  of e28 535i fuel tank
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on 3/2/04 8:56 AM, "r.mackrill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Looking for specs to calculate shipping charges...
> Randy
> Regina, SK

According to the ETK, the 63 litre metal fuel tank alone, P/N
16-11-1-176-518, for a 1987 535i weighs exactly 9.000 kg.

Neil
96 M3


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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:23:54 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Trans fluid change procedure
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Brett advises:

"It's a great idea.  Provided the trans doesn't have extended mileage on
the
existing fluid.  I wouldn't want to do a power flush on a trans that has
more than 40-50K miles on it's fluid."

I'll bite..... why is that?

Brad,  if doing the flush through the coolant lines how do you make sure
that you input the right volume when you're done?

-Kevin


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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:15:31 -0600
From: Fernando Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E36 M3 pads and rotors 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I second Bora's opinion on the R4S.  They squeal some on the street, 
don't have good cold initial bite and can I've made them fade on the 
track with street tires.  Trying now Axxis Ultimates for street/auto-x 
and Cobalt's Spec VR for track.  Will report on both once I get more 
miles on them.

Fernando

On Mar 2, 2004, at 10:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 08:36:57 -0800
> From: "Bora Akyol (BMW)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: E36 M3 pads and rotors
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> They don't work well cold and they don't work well hot.
> Maybe mine were just a result of a bad batch.
>
> There are much better pads at more reasonable prices.
>
> Bora
>


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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 16:53:43 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Stuck Transmission filling plug (e36)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I use that method too.  You just have to be careful not to jack the car up
off the jack stands using this method.  If the plug or nut is stuck that
bad, you have a pretty serious problem.    :^)

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

>Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 09:42:50 -0600
>From: "Aaron Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Stuck Transmission filling plug (e36)
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>i've found that in most situations if you can get the car jack to help
>you, that's the best. if your jack can reach the wrench or breaker bar
>handle, do that instead and let the hydraulics do the work. works great
>for wheel hubs. no cursing necessary :-). and no bruised knuckles.
>
>aaron




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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 18:54:09 -0800
From: "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Stuck Transmission filling plug (e36)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

re: stuck bolts:
Back to basics everyone:  Use a propane torch on low to medium heat and 
patiently heat the metal around the stuck bolt.  Turn bolt with a 
quality tight fitting wrench or socket so you don't round it.
Good Luck.

Barry

>If the plug or nut is stuck that
>bad, you have a pretty serious problem.    :^)
>
>Scott Miller
>

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:28:54 -0800
From: "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dyno Speeds: Was Alutec or ASA wheels
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Chet,

I see your point about the tires , but to complete a dyno run I would think
you need to run up to the red line. In 6th gear at 6500RPM they hit 220mph.
Believe me, I was like an expectant father, I has to leave the waiting room.
What is the max speed for S-03 tires anyway? I may need to hold my speed
down at driver's school this month. :)

John Kjos
'99 540i/6: Dinan S
'01 525iTa: Stock
Portland, OR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [UUC] Alutec or ASA wheels


> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> "I had my car on the dyno today. They got it up to 220MPH and there was
> not a hint of wobble or out of roundness in my BBS RK2 wheels at any
> speed."
>
> John,
> You're lucky 'they' did not shred a tire at that speed.  Even on a dyno,
> it's a dangerous venture to go beyond the recommended speeds of a tire.
> That is of course unless you're running x-rayed tires, etc....meant to
> handle it.
> I've heard of nasty things happening when people have done this sort of
> thing.
> Be careful, make sure the shop is insured and don't stand anywhere near
> by while they are doing this!
>
> I love my BBS wheels too.  You get what you pay for and in the case of
> BBS wheels it's very good quality.
>
> Chet Dawes



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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 22:30:54 -0500
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dyno Speeds: Was Alutec or ASA wheels
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Find a new dyno shop.

Have them test the vehicle correctly.  You might be surprised at how much
power you're really putting out.

Brett Anderson
KMS


> -----Original Message-----
>
> I see your point about the tires , but to complete a dyno run I
> would think
> you need to run up to the red line. In 6th gear at 6500RPM they
> hit 220mph.




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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 22:27:36 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dyno Speeds: Was Alutec or ASA wheels
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Tire speed capacity depends on load, inflation and camber.  220 mph is
definitely beyond the S-03.  I believe they have a Y rating for 187 mph or
so, but that is with high inflation (about 44 psi) and relatively light
load.

Gary Derian


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>
> Chet,
>
> I see your point about the tires , but to complete a dyno run I would
think
> you need to run up to the red line. In 6th gear at 6500RPM they hit
220mph.
> Believe me, I was like an expectant father, I has to leave the waiting
room.
> What is the max speed for S-03 tires anyway? I may need to hold my speed
> down at driver's school this month. :)
>
> John Kjos
> '99 540i/6: Dinan S
> '01 525iTa: Stock
> Portland, OR



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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:34:30 -0800
From: "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 220mph Dyno Run
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Kevin (aka: doubting Thomas)

Seeing is believing!!!

John Kjos
'99 540i/6: Dinan S
'01 525iTa: Stock
Portland, OR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [UUC] 220mph Dyno Run


> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Chet,
>
> Personally I have a hard time believing a Dyno run at 220mph unless the
> motor, drive train, and ECU are built to purpose. (not counting the
> suspension and aero's for a dyno session).
>
> -Kevin
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>



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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:31:14 -0800
From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E36 M3 pads and rotors
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

When I first put the Porterfield R4S pads on my car, they were perfectly 
quiet.  Around 5K miles later, they started to squeal like a garbage 
truck.  I took them off, cleaned out the brake dust from the calipers, 
gooped the pads with anti-squeal, and put it all back together.  Worked 
like a charm - squeal stopped, and hasn't come back in 20K+ miles...

Oh, and I was very happy with the pads for autocrossing/street use.  I had 
no problem at all with cold stops, the pads had great initial bite, and 
were easy to modulate.

Jim Ochi

At 09:29 AM 3/2/2004, Mark Dadgar wrote:

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>
>On Mar 2, 2004, at 9:13 AM, Greg Cagle wrote:
>>I had some serious squealing issues initially; then I
>>took them off and liberally applied anti-squeal goo, which
>>seems to have resolved the issues.
>
>I tried that, along with anti-sieze, felt pads, bevelling the edges, etc 
>etc etc. It always came back.
>
>It's too bad.  They are a good aggressive street pad with nice bite and 
>light-colored dust.
>
>They will fade badly on the track, though.
>
>- Mark
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>


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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:54:07 -0800 (PST)
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E38> Trans Fluid Change Question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Robinson, Lee wrote:

> I was actually wondering about this whole "lifetime fluid" thing
> anyway. How good are the filters in these auto trannies?  If I
> remember correctly, auto trans have several clutches in them along
> with planetary gears & the torque converter.  Now these clutches
> should wear out & deposit friction material into the fluid which
> then (presumably) goes through the filter. However, I would still
> think this would leave a ton of gunk behind, especially on cars
> that spend a lot of time in hot climates in heavy traffic (i.e. no
> cooling airflow).  How much crap can the filter take before it's
> so clogged with crap that there's either crap blow-by or
> starvation of oil, cavitation of the pump, etc?

 I recently rebuilt the transmission on my wife's Maxima - the car is
worth $0 without a working tranny, so I had nothing to lose.  :)  The
clutch packs are stacks of metal rings and friction material, and as
far as I can see from the stuff stuck to the magnets inside, both
friction material and metal are released to circulate.  The filter in
my case did not catch everything.  There were bits of dust way up in
the valve body on top of the unit that got pumped through.
 It looks to me like a little bit of friction material should not
spell doom, at least in the unit I worked on.  The sliding clearances
of the valves in the valve body are very tight however, so excess gunk
or a small metal shaving could easily prevent a valve from doing its
thing.
 You can see pictures of this unit with roughly 100k miles to give you
a general idea of what you'll find inside an auto tranny:
<http://www.bolhuijo.com/gallery/nissan>
 I'm just happy that I was able to make this thing go again with new
clutches, seals, gaskets, solenoid valves, and fluid.

--
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro


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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 22:22:24 -0600
From: "M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alutec or ASA wheels
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I agree with that too - the RK is just beyond my budget, the RGR just a
'bit more'  :)
Mark


>
> My personal favorite is the RGR.
>
> Bora
>
> On 3/1/04 6:59 PM, "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Search the
ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > Mark said "Frankly, if this was to be the car I tracked for years to
come
> > I'd get a set of BBS RK in 17" and be done with it.".
> > 
> > I've tried lots of brands of wheels and always seem to come back to
BBS. I
> > had my car on the dyno today. They got it up to 220MPH and there was
not a
> > hint of wobble or out of roundness in my BBS RK2 wheels at any speed.
They
> > are just worth more than some brands. Nothing wrong with AC Schnitzer,
> > Hamann, SSR, and many others too. Check ebay for pricing on used quality
> > wheels if you want to save some bucks. I saw some Hamann's at 50% of
list
> > the other day. I also heard that Racing Dynamics (or is it RD Sport in
the
> > USA) is clearing out some model wheels. Tire Rack has/had a special
running
> > on RK2 wheels and maybe RK as well.
> > 
> > John Kjos
> > '99 540i/6: Dinan S
> > '01 525iTa: Stock
> > Portland, OR
> > 
> > 
> >
__________________________________________________________________________
> > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW
CCA.
> > 
> > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com




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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 22:26:39 -0600
From: "M Kittock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Alutec or ASA wheels
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks, Scott.  I checked with Tire Rack today and the ASA AR1 and Borbet E
are hubcentric, no rings required.  Good thing to check out.

Mark


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 3/1/2004 7:08:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [UUC]  Alutec or ASA wheels
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> I have a set of ASA JS1 wheels, 15x7, which I use for my autocross tires.
> They seem sturdy, and while they're not really heavy, they are not as
light
> as I'd like.
>
> On the E30 they require a centering ring.  Tire Rack originally sent me
> plastic trim rings, even though they mounted the Kumho V700s on them for
> me.  A year later I saw an article by Tire Rack's John Rastetter in
> Grassroots Motorsports magazine saying to be sure to get metal centering
> rings if you use the wheels for anything more than just cruising around on
> the street.  Well, what did they think I was gonna use those Kumhos for?
> So I bought metal centering rings.  Anyway, be sure to ask in advance if
> you need the rings for your application, and if you do, get metal ones.
>
> Scott Miller
> > >Thanks!!
> >
>



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