The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 158 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Engine rebuild...timing question Re: Engine rebuild...timing question Admin: Friendly Reminder Re: [uuc] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Re: [uuc] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Re: [uuc] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Re: [uuc] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Re: E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Las Vegas Motor Speedway outside road course <e34> Stuck thrust arm E34 Heater Control Problem re E34 540 in NJ O2 sensor and mileage
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:25:44 -0500 From: "Roy T. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Engine rebuild...timing question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I decided I was going to do the whole head while I had to go in there. Any advice on setting the timing though? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brett Anderson Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 1:47 AM To: UUC Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] Engine rebuild...timing question Umm, why exactly did you need to interrupt cam timing to fix a broken water pump stud? Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > One question > I have in particular is do I need the special timing chain > tensioner that is mentioned in the Bently? I cant remember the > specific part number. Can I just use anything to hold the chain > tight on install? How particular is the torque required on the > special tensionser? This seems like a very important step since > the amount of play in the chain will effect the overall timing > when fully installed. I dont want to have too much slack so that > the cams roll forward when its released. However, I have noticed > that most special tools are really just simple tools that have a > specific purpose, like the flywhe! > el locking tool. Also does anyone have any specific markings I > could use when reinstalling the cams? The Bently basically says > to have the 1st lobes point up and towards each other. It seems > that there could be a link or two difference in the chain using > that method. Finally if anyone has any other insight on putting > this head back together please let me know. I am a little > paranoid that I am going to ram a piston into a valve. Thanks > for a the posts from when I was taking it apart. Just think all > this to fix a broken water pump mounting stud the right way. Oh > one last question. Anything to check when reinstalling for > specific wear? Obviously the things listed in the Bently but are > there any parts that cause particular nastiness if unchecked? > > Roy Collins > '96 328i in pieces on the garage floor. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.665 / Virus Database: 428 - Release Date: 4/21/2004 Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:37:59 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Engine rebuild...timing question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You need all of Brett's tools, except don't bother with checking the VANOS, it was a waste of time and effort. Ed Just did job on 328i Roy T. Collins wrote: >I decided I was going to do the whole head while I had to go in there. Any advice on >setting the timing though? > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brett Anderson >Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 1:47 AM >To: UUC Digest >Subject: Re: [UUC] Engine rebuild...timing question > > >Umm, why exactly did you need to interrupt cam timing to fix a broken water >pump stud? > >Brett Anderson >KMS > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >> One question >>I have in particular is do I need the special timing chain >>tensioner that is mentioned in the Bently? I cant remember the >>specific part number. Can I just use anything to hold the chain >>tight on install? How particular is the torque required on the >>special tensionser? This seems like a very important step since >>the amount of play in the chain will effect the overall timing >>when fully installed. I dont want to have too much slack so that >>the cams roll forward when its released. However, I have noticed >>that most special tools are really just simple tools that have a >>specific purpose, like the flywhe! >>el locking tool. Also does anyone have any specific markings I >>could use when reinstalling the cams? The Bently basically says >>to have the 1st lobes point up and towards each other. It seems >>that there could be a link or two difference in the chain using >>that method. Finally if anyone has any other insight on putting >>this head back together please let me know. I am a little >>paranoid that I am going to ram a piston into a valve. Thanks >>for a the posts from when I was taking it apart. Just think all >>this to fix a broken water pump mounting stud the right way. Oh >>one last question. Anything to check when reinstalling for >>specific wear? Obviously the things listed in the Bently but are >>there any parts that cause particular nastiness if unchecked? >> >>Roy Collins >>'96 328i in pieces on the garage floor. >> >> >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.665 / Virus Database: 428 - Release Date: 4/21/2004 > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:41:58 -0400 From: UUC Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Admin: Friendly Reminder Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Folks, I feel like we're starting to drift off topic a bit here. But some good discussions have occurred, so this is just a friendly nudge back towards the BMW road. A brief posting of the rules to refresh everyone's memory: List Rules: 1. Talk about BMW's and related things. 2. No flaming unless the person really, really deserves it... then fire away! Keep it brief, no extended flame-wars will be tolerated. 3. Don't waste bandwidth or time - use common sense, don't quote an entire message when a snippet will do. 4. Private advertising (i.e., my 635CSi is for sale) is allowed. Commercial advertising only by authorized advertisers. Check with the list admin before posting anything commercial. Unauthorized commercial advertising will not be tolerated. 5. Heed the ListMaster's warnings: excessive flaming, <OT> off-topic posting or <WOB> waste of bandwidth posting will result in subscription termination. 6. There is no rule number 6. 7. No whining. 8. Correct e-mail etiquette is required. Your e-mail must be configured properly so it does not send garbage characters, HTML tags, etc. Use a proper subject header, not just the reply to header. Do not type in ALL CAPS, the 'caps lock' key is right above the 'shift' key, get familiar with it. Bad e-mail will get you booted. If you need help configuring your e-mail to send ASCII text, follow this link: http://www.uucdigest.com/plaintext.html 9. Have fun! Now back to our regularly scheduled UUC Digest.... -- Michael K Donohue System Administrator UUC Digest http://www.uucdigest.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 17:46:19 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> re: water tightness. I got a huge US flag made in adhesive vinyl and placed it over the sun roof. Water tight and patriotic at the same time. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil N. Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 9:00 PM To: Racers; UUC Digest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] [UUC] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Group(s), Just removed the sunroof cartridge from my E36 coupe (thanks to those that e-mailed tips). Managed to get the panel free of the cartridge, too (not the easiest thing I've ever done). Now, the questions: What methods of reattaching the panel to the roof have you used? I've seen some neat bracketry, which I can duplicate at a friend's machine shop. Is that the way to go? I've also heard a bit about riveting. Thoughts? Secondly, when I put the panel back in the hole (just with my hands), it seemed there was a slight space between the panel and roof. What should be done to keep this watertight - is it typical to apply some sort of sealant to the groove either above or below the roof? Thanks in advance, Neil 1994 325is Targa (almost) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25" http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:53:35 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Apr 25, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Marco Romani wrote: > re: water tightness. > > I got a huge US flag made in adhesive vinyl and placed it over the sun > roof. > Water tight and patriotic at the same time. That's so ... so ... Dukes of Hazzard. - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:30:43 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hmmmmm...... I wonder if I can find a horn that blares "Anchors Aweigh"? Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Dadgar Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] [UUC] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge On Apr 25, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Marco Romani wrote: > re: water tightness. > > I got a huge US flag made in adhesive vinyl and placed it over the sun > roof. > Water tight and patriotic at the same time. That's so ... so ... Dukes of Hazzard. - Mark Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:03:28 -0700 From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://tinyurl.com/323tx> Jim Ochi At 09:30 PM 4/25/2004, Marco Romani wrote: >hmmmmm...... > >I wonder if I can find a horn that blares "Anchors Aweigh"? > >Marco > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Dadgar >Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:54 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [uuc] [UUC] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge > > >On Apr 25, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Marco Romani wrote: > > re: water tightness. > > > > I got a huge US flag made in adhesive vinyl and placed it over the sun > > roof. > > Water tight and patriotic at the same time. > >That's so ... so ... Dukes of Hazzard. > >- Mark > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:21:58 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cool. That'd sound better than the time the horn button shorted during a qualifying session at Laguna Seca and the corner workers were treated to a 15 minute demonstration of the doppler effect. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J. Ochi Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] [UUC] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge <http://tinyurl.com/323tx> Jim Ochi At 09:30 PM 4/25/2004, Marco Romani wrote: >hmmmmm...... > >I wonder if I can find a horn that blares "Anchors Aweigh"? > >Marco > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Dadgar >Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 6:54 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [uuc] [UUC] E36 sunroof reinstallation w/out cartridge > > >On Apr 25, 2004, at 5:46 PM, Marco Romani wrote: > > re: water tightness. > > > > I got a huge US flag made in adhesive vinyl and placed it over the sun > > roof. > > Water tight and patriotic at the same time. > >That's so ... so ... Dukes of Hazzard. > >- Mark > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:16:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Las Vegas Motor Speedway outside road course Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For those that have been there, how demanding is the outside road course at Las Vegas Motor Speedway on brakes? On a graded scale, I'd grade Laguna Seca and California Speedway A, Buttonwillow and Sears Point B, and Willow Springs's big track C in decreasing order of brake wear. I'll probably be in the B group, and the car is essentially a stock E46 328Ci on street tires with the stock braking system, including stock pads (no performance upgrades to speak of). Thanks for any info. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 01:29:43 -0400 From: "Doug Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: <e34> Stuck thrust arm Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well I started the job of changing my thrust arms a bit too late in the weekend and I am paying for it. What should have been a simple couple hour job has got me working well into the night. My right side thrust arm is stuck in the steering linkage. On the left side, the ball joint just came out with a gentle tap, but on the right side, it has withstood hammering, pickle forks, and heat. I will admit that I don't have BMW Special Tool 31 ???? For removal of ball joints, but I have something that is close, but doesn't have a centering pin to hold it on the end of the ball joint stud. Anybody have any ideas what will break it loose? I've been hoping that some combination of "turn the wheel all the way to the right, lean on the linkage, and tap it three times" or something. As it is, it doesn't look like I am driving to work this morning. Also, while I'm asking, how the heck do you tighten the bushing end with the wheels on the ground? To get the bushing end off, I had to remove the sway bar mounts so that my wrench could get to the back side nut. Is this a normal part of the procedure? It wasn't mentioned in Bently or on bmwe34.net descriptions. Any help appreciated, and if anybody in the Boston/Metro West area has the right ball joint removal tool that I could borrow tomorrow, please let me know. Thanks in advance, Doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:43:57 -0400 From: "Danny Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: E34 Heater Control Problem Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a 90 535i that has a heater control problem. The temp control knob for the passenger's side does not stop heat flow even when the knob is in the off position. I have disassembled and cleaned the heater control valve. I also tested it by applying current to both sides and valves moved...so it looks like it's okay. Any ideas where the problem lies...switch? Thanks, Danny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:58:15 +0000 From: "D Beilstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re E34 540 in NJ Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yesterday I saw a nice E34 540 on ebay. It had a blue exterior and a tan interior with lots of nice upgrades (Me sport mirrors, lowered on Eibach springs, Ecu was chipped, etc.). I think the sellers last name was something like 'Richter.' The car was in Princeton, NJ. Anyone familiar with this car? Darren Portland, ME _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar � get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:01:46 -0500 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: O2 sensor and mileage Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Our '93 525iT was diagnosed with a slow responding O2 sensor when, several months ago, the check engine light came on and the car didn't want to idle. After it sat a while it ran fine and has since then. Will a slow responding O2 sensor have any effect on fuel consumption? Also, if it doesn't appear to be setting codes, is there any problem w/not changing it until the light comes on again or there are drivability problems? TIA Clarence West Bend, WI ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(13 messages) **********
