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  <E36/E46> Oil filter question
  Re: E46 Traction Control Limits
  Re: E46 Traction Control Limits
  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: S$$$ happens
  Re: S$$$ happens
  <OT> www.carstuckgirls.com
  Re: <OT> www.carstuckgirls.com
  Compression and Leak Down test's...long...help...
  Re: Compression and Leak Down test's...long...help...

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:24:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: <E36/E46> Oil filter question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So yesterday we picked up the wife's new chariot, a 2004 330xi.
I noticed that the cartridge housing the oil filter appears to
have the same type of cap as on my 1999 323is (last of the E36).
Do these cars take the same filter?

TIA

steve

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:11:08 -0700
From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E46 Traction Control Limits
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> I think it's pretty funny (or sad) but so far I've had 2 different
>> experiences where the wonderful new BMW DSC on my e46 330i sedan not
>> only showed its limits, but reduced forward motion compared to a basic
>> limited slip diff on my older e36 M3 (without traction control).

Specifically regarding traction/stability-control (ASR, DSC) vs. 
limited-slip - a mechanical limited-slip diff intervenes sooner and with 
much less interference with the driver's intent (that is, assuming the 
driver's intending to apply stick) - indeed, if you're talking about a 
Quaife/Torsen/etc. type helical torque-biasing diff, the intervention 
happens before there's evident wheelslip.

A limited-slip diff is an aid to energetic driving, traction control is 
a handicap.

DSC in total is a different story, and *can* be helpful.  Indeed, when 
we did Euro Delivery on our '98 540iA and 1500 miles later ended up 
motoring around a morning-fog-damp Nordschleife, I'll freely admit I 
didn't have the balls to turn it off. It was a wonderful opportunity to 
learn what DSC can and can't do - and as applied in that car I have 
enormous respect for its ability to keep the car straight and on the 
road under braking and an equal distaste for the "thou shalt not develop 
any slip angle" restraint that it imparts in cornering.

It is, of course, possible to combine ASR or DSC and a limited-slip 
diff.  My M5 has both, and it's far tidier in getting grip over bumpy, 
uneven surfaces than the 540i.  It's still far too restrictive in that 
application, and when confronted with a track or other opportunity to 
unwind the car the first thing one does is reach for the button.

Indeed, the clearest indication of just how serious GMPD got in building 
the Cadillac CTS-V isn't the LS6 engine under the hood, or the 14in 
Brembos under the wheels; it's the mode-selectable stability control and 
its 'track mode' that desensitizes the thing enough to let you build 
real rear-wheel slip angle.

John.

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:19:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E46 Traction Control Limits
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I think it's possible to design a traction control system that helps the
driver go faster --- Formula 1 does it all the time.  It's also said that
only Michael Schumacher and one of their test drivers have been able to
drive the Ferrari Enzo around Ferrari's test track faster with the Enzo's
traction control off than on.  

But I guess that may not be applicable to our relatively low horsepower
cars --- F1 TC seems to be allowed to cut engine power only to prevent
power oversteer. The use of fiddle brakes or differential braking is
verboten in F1, but that can be helpful in not only enabling all power to
be transferred to one wheel (I'm not sure that a mechanical diff can do
that usefully), but also to effect rear-wheel steering. I'm not sure that
BMW's DSC programming allows such things, though they do claim to correct
understeer as well as oversteer. 

--Andre



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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:08:16 -0400
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It was slow on the freeway this morning probably no more than 10-15 MPH. I saw an 
opening on the lane on my left, probably three car lenghts, checked the mirror, it was 
open so I changed lanes. Halfway through my lane change I heard muffled brakes 
screeching and saw this bike in the rear view mirror, rider dumping his bike, and just 
nudging my bumper. He was one of those who weave in and out and basically drive in 
between cars when traffic is heavy. He must be traveling faster than the cars (they 
usually do) as I didn't see him when I looked in the side mirror. I breathed a sigh of 
relief when he got up and pushed his bike to the side of the freeway. Only damage was 
to his bike mirror, scrapes on his tank and scrapes on my bumper where he nudged it. 
Good thing the traffic was real slow the truck behind me was able to stop in time and 
didn't hit him. We didn't exchange info as he basically knew it was his fault and 
there was no majors to report. 

Now that I have time to think of it, should we have?


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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:11:31 -0400
From: "Yury Rush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

He's lucky they did not have to scrape him off the street, as to exchanging
info. to late now :)

ciao
yury

2002 530i NYC


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] S$$$ happens


It was slow on the freeway this morning probably no more than 10-15 MPH. I
saw an opening on the lane on my left, probably three car lenghts, checked
the mirror, it was open so I changed lanes. Halfway through my lane change I
heard muffled brakes screeching and saw this bike in the rear view mirror,
rider dumping his bike, and just nudging my bumper. He was one of those who
weave in and out and basically drive in between cars when traffic is heavy.
He must be traveling faster than the cars (they usually do) as I didn't see
him when I looked in the side mirror. I breathed a sigh of relief when he
got up and pushed his bike to the side of the freeway. Only damage was to
his bike mirror, scrapes on his tank and scrapes on my bumper where he
nudged it. Good thing the traffic was real slow the truck behind me was able
to stop in time and didn't hit him. We didn't exchange info as he basically
knew it was his fault and there was no majors to report.

Now that I have time to think of it, should we have?

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__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:21:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It was slow on the freeway this morning probably no more than 10-15 MPH. I saw an 
> opening on the
> lane on my left, probably three car lenghts, checked the mirror, it was open so I 
> changed lanes.
> Halfway through my lane change I heard muffled brakes screeching and saw this bike 
> in the rear
> view mirror, rider dumping his bike, and just nudging my bumper. He was one of those 
> who weave
> in and out and basically drive in between cars when traffic is heavy. He must be 
> traveling
> faster than the cars (they usually do) as I didn't see him when I looked in the side 
> mirror. I
> breathed a sigh of relief when he got up and pushed his bike to the side of the 
> freeway. Only
> damage was to his bike mirror, scrapes on his tank and scrapes on my bumper where he 
> nudged it.
> Good thing the traffic was real slow the truck behind me was able to stop in time 
> and didn't hit
> him. We didn't exchange info as he basically knew it was his fault and there was no 
> majors to
> report. 
> 
> Now that I have time to think of it, should we have?

Only if you wanted to pursue having him pay for damage to your vehicle.  Also, a 
police report
would have been a good idea I suppose to protect yourself if he had come back and 
tried to press
charges against you.  You filing a report first/willingly would support your side of 
the story
better I would imagine than not filing a report.

Just my personal thoughts, I could be completely off base from a legal standpoint as I 
am not a
lawyer.

Later,

Rich

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:34:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Howdy,

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It was slow on the freeway this morning probably no more than 10-15 MPH.
> I saw an opening on the lane on my left, probably three car lenghts,
> checked the mirror, it was open so I changed lanes. Halfway through my
> lane change I heard muffled brakes screeching and saw this bike in the
> rear view mirror, rider dumping his bike, and just nudging my bumper. He
> was one of those who weave in and out and basically drive in between
> cars when traffic is heavy. He must be traveling faster than the cars
> (they usually do) as I didn't see him when I looked in the side mirror.
> I breathed a sigh of relief when he got up and pushed his bike to the
> side of the freeway. Only damage was to his bike mirror, scrapes on his
> tank and scrapes on my bumper where he nudged it. Good thing the traffic
> was real slow the truck behind me was able to stop in time and didn't
> hit him. We didn't exchange info as he basically knew it was his fault
> and there was no majors to report.
> 
> Now that I have time to think of it, should we have?

What state are you in?  Is lane splitting legal there?  As I recall, it's 
legal in CA...

If so... Kinda sounds to me like you cut the guy off.

Disregard if lane splitting isn't legal where you are.

Mark


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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:06:10 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 12:08:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> was able to stop in time and didn't hit him. We didn't exchange info
> as he basically knew it was his fault and there was no majors to
> report. 
> 
> Now that I have time to think of it, should we have?

 Assuming CA, you need to get a police report if there is any injury at 
all or damage to any one person's property of $750 or more. (section 
16000)  So it depends.  Was he injured?  Does a scrape count?  How much 
to repair his gas tank?  (the one on my bike is shockingly expensive).
 He was probably happy to let it go since a motorcyclist splitting lanes 
will get blamed for anything like that.  Splitting is one of those 
barely legal things in CA that is ok under some circumstance, one of 
them being that you must not go much faster than traffic, and the 
traffic has to be going quite slowly in the first place.
 I commute on motorcycle every day and split when the traffic gets 
bunched up.  I always ride with 2 fingers on the brake and an eagle eye 
out for lane changers.  I feel more comfortable between 2 cars than I do 
between 1 car and an empty lane spot!

-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:22:15 -0500 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: S$$$ happens
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Check your state laws.  You may be required by law to report any accident,
and would have a time limit in which to do so.  This guy could have your
license plate and have reported it to the police as a hit and run, who
knows?

Roan.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] S$$$ happens

It was slow on the freeway this morning probably no more than 10-15 MPH. I
saw an opening on the lane on my left, probably three car lenghts, checked
the mirror, it was open so I changed lanes. Halfway through my lane change I
heard muffled brakes screeching and saw this bike in the rear view mirror,
rider dumping his bike, and just nudging my bumper. He was one of those who
weave in and out and basically drive in between cars when traffic is heavy.
He must be traveling faster than the cars (they usually do) as I didn't see
him when I looked in the side mirror. I breathed a sigh of relief when he
got up and pushed his bike to the side of the freeway. Only damage was to
his bike mirror, scrapes on his tank and scrapes on my bumper where he
nudged it. Good thing the traffic was real slow the truck behind me was able
to stop in time and didn't hit him. We didn't exchange info as he basically
knew it was his fault and there was no majors to report. 

Now that I have time to think of it, should we have?

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__________________________________________________________________________
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:38:29 -0400
From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ///uucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: <OT> www.carstuckgirls.com
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This may not be new but. . .

http://www.carstuckgirls.com/

There is actually some obligatory BMW content there.
-- 
...steven
2003 Mini Cooper S
1996 BMW 328ti
1990 Mazda MX6 +200000 miles

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 22:09:30 -0400
From: "Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <OT> www.carstuckgirls.com
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Steven,
Does Florence know you're looking at this stuff?
Woody

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From: "Steven Schlossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "///uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:38 PM
Subject: [UUC] <OT> www.carstuckgirls.com


> This may not be new but. . .
> 
> http://www.carstuckgirls.com/
> 
> There is actually some obligatory BMW content there.
> -- 
> ...steven
>


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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:42:50 -0700
From: "RussC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "M535i_sig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED] com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED] com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compression and Leak Down test's...long...help...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well, I've now completed the above tests,  E28 '88 535is Dinan Turbo, 178k
miles on M30-b34 engine.

Compression results - 7 cranks:
1--165psi
2--170psi
3--165psi
4--165psi
5--161psi
6--165psi

Those results look real good to me.  There higher than Bentley, but I spun
the engine 2-3 more cranks than it recommended.  It was determined that
getting longer cranking to a more stable # made sense.

Leak down test:
1st pass hot;
1--57%
2--60%
3--28%
4--73%
5--63%
6--79%--Lower is better(less leakage)

Mmmm, whats up with that?  Confusion, so did the test again:

1--68%
2--70%
3--77%
4--78%
5--36%
6--24%

Mmm, cylinders that were bad now good.  The only thing I could determine was
that either the  nozzle isn't sealing or theres an issue with the piston not
being at perfect TDC?  Does that make sense.  I concluded rightly or wrongly
that if the piston is not at almost perfect TDC, the pressure of the rod
causes the rings to not seal against the cylinder walls?  So I went back and
did the cylinders that were still bad after two tests, moving the piston a
little each time to try and get TDC nuts on.  All tests had the rocker arms
loose and very close to TDC.

1--15%
2--24%
4--28%--and rest from above;
3--28%
5--36%
6--24%

Now they seem to be in accetable limits, not great, but more consistant.
All those #s are in the green(low) on the gauge.  Each test I checked the
resivor tank for bubbles, none on any test  yeaaa  :-)

Ive not concluded yet if this makes sense.  I would appreciate any
comments/opinions.

RussC


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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:29:17 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Compression and Leak Down test's...long...help...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 06:42:50PM -0700, RussC wrote:

> Ive not concluded yet if this makes sense.  I would appreciate any
> comments/opinions.

 I bought a cheapo leakdown tester that only used 30psi.  At that low 
pressure, it seemed that none of the rings would seat in any of my 6 
cylinders, and leakage was always in the 70% range, i.e. no rings left, 
which simply isn't true.
 I have only recently acquired a replacement gage that reads higher 
pressures and have been meaning to try it again for giggles.

-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 

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