The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 315 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: E30 Airbag
  Re: Airbags and Insurance (was <E36> '94 325is steering
  Re: 'Knob's'
  Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
  Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
  Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
  Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
  Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
  <E30> FS: 14" BBS Wheels and R-compound tires
  E36 tranny options
  Re: E30 Airbag
  Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system?

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 21:57:02 -0500
From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Dave Swingle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E30 Airbag
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The airbag reset light in an E30 is the worst piece of engineering BMW  
has ever offered.

The reset procedure requires removal of the airbag brain and physically  
connect to individual pins through a reset tool. Here's the fun one...  
there's 2 different procedures depending on the system type...  
hehehehehe...

OOh yeah, and documentation is similar to vapor...

Yeah, you're right... $90 is wrong to charge... should be more like  
150.00!

Give it to the man, pay the money.

Jenny Morgan


On Aug 12, 2004, at 9:12 PM, Dave Swingle wrote:

> Quite a while ago we managed to set the airbag light on my son's 1990  
> E30.
> (Turned on the ignition with the front seat out). So now the light  
> flashes
> all the time and I presume the airbag is disarmed. Dealer wants $90 to  
> reset
> it. Is it really that complicated (I understand that the 1990, being  
> the
> first airbag year is different from later ones and that the universal  
> reset
> tool won't work)? Is there any other way to reset it? What is it that  
> takes
> the dealer an hour to do?
>
> Dave Swingle
>
> Search the  
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:16:25 -0500
From: Mark and Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Airbags and Insurance (was <E36> '94 325is steering
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bill Matthews wrote :

>Your insurance is a contract between you and the insurance company where
>you pay them a specified amount of money to to assume a financial risk
>you can't afford to or choose not to for a specified period of time.
>Everything relative to that contract is spelled out in your insurance
>policy. In many cases what is allowed or not allowed in that contract is
>dictated by the insurance commissioner in the state you live in. Read
>your contract and understand it.
>
>If you have a simple liabilty policy and you rearend someone while
>talking on the phone, drinking your double latte, reading the paper and
>shaving all at the same time, your insurance company cannot deny
>liability coverage for the person you hit because you put in a
>non-airbag steering wheel unless there is specific language in the
>policy about that.
>
>If at the same time you have collision coverage they cannot deny that
>claim either. Unless there is an exclusion in the policy or one of those
>inserts that come with your renewal. You do read those right?
>

I agree 100% with Bill..



Gary Derian added..

>If you are in a crash, and an expert has the opinion
>(based on facts and using standard methodology) that
>you would have been less injured with an airbag than
>you were, there might be some trouble with the
>insurance company and your medical bills.  You could
>still sue the other driver if he were at fault.
>

.. again as Bill stated. ... your insurance company  can not remove 
first party
coverage other than by the exclusions in the policy  contract.. 

Now then... let's assume that the same driver in Bill's example was NOT
at fault in an accident, and a claimant..  The insurance company  that 
is paying
the damages to the latte driving,  phone conversing, paper reading, non
aibag steering wheel driver could REDUCE the amount of the damages they
pay to him by asserting that the aforementioned items  constitute 
contributory
negligence.. In other words... they may only pay  70% ... or maybe 50-60%
because of all the distractions and the removal of a federally mandated 
safety
device from the vehicle. 


Mark Williams
Dallas, TX
claim rep by day

 


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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:54:46 -0400
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'Knob's'
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



> -----Original Message-----
> "Not just the wrong word - I don't believe 'knubs' is a word at all.
> 'Nubs' maybe?  'Knobs'?"
>
> There's a joke in there somewhere but, I for one, will not stir the wrath
> of the Ozzie.
>
> -Kevin

Are you kidding me?!?!?

Hell, I can't even say youse around here without her jumping on me.. But hey,
that's my good luck, right?

Brett Anderson
KMS

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 01:06:06 -0400
From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The NHTSA waiver is not for vehicle owners, although it is applied for and
filled out by them.

Once you own the car, you can do whatever you want to with the supplemental
restraint systems.  Your insurance company may or may not become a problem if
you disable the bags, but that has nothing to do with the Guvinmint,
therefore, the law.

The NHTSA waiver is for the shop. It removes liability from the shop that
disconnects your air bag.

To my knowledge, there are NO laws in the US that require you to drive with an
air bag.  Most, if not all, states require that you wear a seat belt when
driving, none require you have an active air bag system while driving.

Brett Anderson
KMS

> -----Original Message-----
>      There is the NHTSA waiver letter which allows the airbags to be
> disconnected or an on/off switch installed if certain conditions are met.
> I keep the waiver letter in my car.  The idea of a hand grenade going
> off in front of my seat belted chest never appealed to me.
> You can easily disconnect the airbags by disconnecting the connect to
> the crash sensor.
> On the E36, maybe other series too, it is located under the rear seat
> bottom.  It's a cigarette pack size metal housing with a harness
> connector similar to the angled sliding type used to connect ignition coils.
>      Note I'm not endorsing doing this, only giving technical info how
> it can be done.
> Barry
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 02:02:50 -0400
From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Brett Anderson wrote:

>To my knowledge, there are NO laws in the US that require you to drive with an
>air bag.  Most, if not all, states require that you wear a seat belt when
>driving, none require you have an active air bag system while driving.
>
That's because as a practical matter it couldn't be done unless it 
exempted all cars built prior to the requirement for airbags (in which 
case what's the point?) otherwise it would force virtually all cars 
built prior to the early 90's off the road.   For many people that would 
deprive them of their only transportation.   It would also kill the 
multi-billion dollar industry that caters to car hobbyists putting 
countless companies out of business and their employees out of work.  
Both would have an unacceptable economic impact.  Much like emissions 
standards, the expectation is that the vast majority of 
non-airbag-equipped cars will eventually disappear through natural 
attrition.  The tiny fraction that will remain won't be significant.

Brian
'94 325ic (meets 1994 safety and emissions standards, but not 
necessarily 2004 standards)



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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:22:50 -0700
From: Tom Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

But it is a requirement for cars (now) to have airbags, which is why your
insurance company may or may not become a problem if you disable the bags.
If it were not an original equipment mandated safety item (where no car can
now be sold without it) then the insurance company would not be able to
take that approach.  Here's the link for the FMVSS;
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/FMVSS/#SN201  
Best regards,
Tom 
At 01:06 AM 08/13/2004 -0400, Brett Anderson wrote:
>
>The NHTSA waiver is not for vehicle owners, although it is applied for and
>filled out by them.
>
>Once you own the car, you can do whatever you want to with the supplemental
>restraint systems.  Your insurance company may or may not become a problem if
>you disable the bags, but that has nothing to do with the Guvinmint,
>therefore, the law.
>
>The NHTSA waiver is for the shop. It removes liability from the shop that
>disconnects your air bag.
>
>To my knowledge, there are NO laws in the US that require you to drive
with an
>air bag.  Most, if not all, states require that you wear a seat belt when
>driving, none require you have an active air bag system while driving.
>
>Brett Anderson
>KMS
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>      There is the NHTSA waiver letter which allows the airbags to be
>> disconnected or an on/off switch installed if certain conditions are met.
>> I keep the waiver letter in my car.  The idea of a hand grenade going
>> off in front of my seat belted chest never appealed to me.
>> You can easily disconnect the airbags by disconnecting the connect to
>> the crash sensor.
>> On the E36, maybe other series too, it is located under the rear seat
>> bottom.  It's a cigarette pack size metal housing with a harness
>> connector similar to the angled sliding type used to connect ignition
coils.
>>      Note I'm not endorsing doing this, only giving technical info how
>> it can be done.
>> Barry
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 02:59:23 -0400
From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Tom,

A requirement for manufacturers to install them in new vehicles is not 
the same thing as prohibiting the consumer from disabling or removing 
the airbag or operating the car on a public roadway having done so.  
Consider the following: for emissions there are two laws, one that 
applies to the manufacturer requiring the vehicle to meet specified 
emissions standards, and a second prohibiting the consumer from removing 
or modifying properly operating emissions control equipment.  As far as 
I am aware there is no corresponding law applicable to the consumer with 
regard to airbags.

Brian
'94 325ic

Tom Reynolds wrote:

>But it is a requirement for cars (now) to have airbags, which is why your
>insurance company may or may not become a problem if you disable the bags.
>If it were not an original equipment mandated safety item (where no car can
>now be sold without it) then the insurance company would not be able to
>take that approach.  Here's the link for the FMVSS;
>http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/FMVSS/#SN201  
>Best regards,
>Tom 
>At 01:06 AM 08/13/2004 -0400, Brett Anderson wrote:
>  
>
>>The NHTSA waiver is not for vehicle owners, although it is applied for and
>>filled out by them.
>>
>>Once you own the car, you can do whatever you want to with the supplemental
>>restraint systems.  Your insurance company may or may not become a problem if
>>you disable the bags, but that has nothing to do with the Guvinmint,
>>therefore, the law.
>>
>>The NHTSA waiver is for the shop. It removes liability from the shop that
>>disconnects your air bag.
>>
>>To my knowledge, there are NO laws in the US that require you to drive
>>    
>>
>with an
>  
>
>>air bag.  Most, if not all, states require that you wear a seat belt when
>>driving, none require you have an active air bag system while driving.
>>
>>Brett Anderson
>>KMS
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>     There is the NHTSA waiver letter which allows the airbags to be
>>>disconnected or an on/off switch installed if certain conditions are met.
>>>I keep the waiver letter in my car.  The idea of a hand grenade going
>>>off in front of my seat belted chest never appealed to me.
>>>You can easily disconnect the airbags by disconnecting the connect to
>>>the crash sensor.
>>>On the E36, maybe other series too, it is located under the rear seat
>>>bottom.  It's a cigarette pack size metal housing with a harness
>>>connector similar to the angled sliding type used to connect ignition
>>>      
>>>
>coils.
>  
>
>>>     Note I'm not endorsing doing this, only giving technical info how
>>>it can be done.
>>>Barry
>>>      
>>>
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>>
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:10:43 -0700
From: Tom Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E36> '94 325is steering wheel diameter
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well, yes and no.  Case in point, I had a '78 Ferrari 308gt4.  Now, the car
had to meet the EPA/DOT specs when it was built for the U.S. market by
Ferrari, as it was sold in Arizona as a new car.  If the area where he
lived did not have emission testing (EPA) then he could conceivably take
off the emission control related equipment, but if testing ever was
introduced, he'd be liable to "return" the car to the condition specified
by the regs for 1978 M.Y. cars.  If no testing was ever introduced in his
locale, then he could leave the stuff off and deal with his own conscience
as to having removed it illegally.  
I had a new '71 MGB, and at that time a mechanic at an MG dealership
offered to take the emission control stuff off, but he offered to do it
privately, so that no one would know.  I refused his offer.
For safety related equipment I really don't know the legal answer, but I
can only think that once it's required, the Feds would take a very dim view
of the equipment in question being disabled, as they had to pass
legislation to make it mandatory in the first place.  This is not to say
that I agree with or disagree with the legislation in question in either
case, just that it is in existence and that manufacturers have to meet
certain standards year by year when they bring out the new models.  If
their cars didn't meet them, or if they were faulty, they either couldn't
be brought out, or would have to be recalled to bring the faulty system
etc. up to snuff.
Best regards,
Tom
At 02:59 AM 08/13/2004 -0400, Brian Daley wrote:
>
>Tom,
>
>A requirement for manufacturers to install them in new vehicles is not 
>the same thing as prohibiting the consumer from disabling or removing 
>the airbag or operating the car on a public roadway having done so.  
>Consider the following: for emissions there are two laws, one that 
>applies to the manufacturer requiring the vehicle to meet specified 
>emissions standards, and a second prohibiting the consumer from removing 
>or modifying properly operating emissions control equipment.  As far as 
>I am aware there is no corresponding law applicable to the consumer with 
>regard to airbags.
>
>Brian
>'94 325ic
>
>Tom Reynolds wrote:
>
>>But it is a requirement for cars (now) to have airbags, which is why your
>>insurance company may or may not become a problem if you disable the bags.
>>If it were not an original equipment mandated safety item (where no car can
>>now be sold without it) then the insurance company would not be able to
>>take that approach.  Here's the link for the FMVSS;
>>http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/FMVSS/#SN201  
>>Best regards,
>>Tom 
>>At 01:06 AM 08/13/2004 -0400, Brett Anderson wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>The NHTSA waiver is not for vehicle owners, although it is applied for and
>>>filled out by them.
>>>
>>>Once you own the car, you can do whatever you want to with the supplemental
>>>restraint systems.  Your insurance company may or may not become a
problem if
>>>you disable the bags, but that has nothing to do with the Guvinmint,
>>>therefore, the law.
>>>
>>>The NHTSA waiver is for the shop. It removes liability from the shop that
>>>disconnects your air bag.
>>>
>>>To my knowledge, there are NO laws in the US that require you to drive
>>>    
>>>
>>with an
>>  
>>
>>>air bag.  Most, if not all, states require that you wear a seat belt when
>>>driving, none require you have an active air bag system while driving.
>>>
>>>Brett Anderson
>>>KMS
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>     There is the NHTSA waiver letter which allows the airbags to be
>>>>disconnected or an on/off switch installed if certain conditions are met.
>>>>I keep the waiver letter in my car.  The idea of a hand grenade going
>>>>off in front of my seat belted chest never appealed to me.
>>>>You can easily disconnect the airbags by disconnecting the connect to
>>>>the crash sensor.
>>>>On the E36, maybe other series too, it is located under the rear seat
>>>>bottom.  It's a cigarette pack size metal housing with a harness
>>>>connector similar to the angled sliding type used to connect ignition
>>>>      
>>>>
>>coils.
>>  
>>
>>>>     Note I'm not endorsing doing this, only giving technical info how
>>>>it can be done.
>>>>Barry
>>>>      
>>>>
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 01:21:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: tabe johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: <E30> FS: 14" BBS Wheels and R-compound tires
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi everyone,

Sadly, my BMW days are over for a few years.  I have to clean out the closets,
and have a few E30 things for sale.  Right now, I'm selling tires and wheels,
which I've collected quite a few of in the past years!  Please see this 
auction on Ebay:

http://tinyurl.com/4y8p2

and click on "view other auctions" as well.

I will be listing a smattering of other accumulated parts in the coming days.

Thanks,

--tabe johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vancouver, BC
Former E30 owner.  Sigh.

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:10:31 -0400
From: "Chris Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E36 tranny options
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I didn't get any replies on this one, but I'm going to try one more time.
Somebody must have experience with this - any tips greatly appreciated.

I'm looking to replace the transmission in my '94 325i.  Every morning it
seems a little harder to shift into 3rd and 5th, plus I have the loss of
spring tension problem that many have experienced.  Anyway, I have a
potential opportunity to get the transmission from an E36 328is.  I know
this is a different transmission than mine, but will it bolt right up, and
are the ratios desirable in my car with a 3:15 rear end?

Thanks,

Chris B.


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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:19:15 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E30 Airbag
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dave,

You have me worried, here. I'm driving my daughter's '90 (with airbag) 
with my '89 (no airbag) seats in it while hers are being recovered.

The airbag light is working properly.

Ed

Dave Swingle wrote:

>Quite a while ago we managed to set the airbag light on my son's 1990 E30.
>(Turned on the ignition with the front seat out). So now the light flashes
>all the time and I presume the airbag is disarmed. Dealer wants $90 to reset
>it. Is it really that complicated (I understand that the 1990, being the
>first airbag year is different from later ones and that the universal reset
>tool won't work)? Is there any other way to reset it? What is it that takes
>the dealer an hour to do?
>  
>


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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:19:46 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Brake bleeding idiot - air in brake system?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ok, so I'm an idiot.  I was helping a friend to changing the rotors and pads
in his 2001 740i last night.  I thought to shorten up the process, since we
don't have a lift, by simultaneously flushing/bleeding the brakes while we
were doing the changeover.  RR, LR, RF, LF, in order.  So we did the RR,
then attached the Motive power bleeder, and flushed/bled the RR caliper.  No
problem.

Then we did the LR, and we seemed to have a really difficult time
compressing the piston back into the caliper.  Hmmm.  But we manage, no
problem.  Then we moved to the RF.  As I remove the caliper from the
bracket, and rest it, I notice that the dust boot seemed to be off the
groove in the piston.  Why is that, I wonder.  Then I notice the piston is
slowly moving OUT of the caliper.  Then it completely pops out of the
caliper, along with a gush of brake fluid.  DOH!!!!!!!!!

Being a complete imbecile, I neglected to de-pressurize the power bleeder.
Ergo, it's as if someone were stepping on the brake pedal.  The pressure
forced the piston out entirely.  Well, at least it didn't fall on the ground
and score itself or anything like that.  I cleaned it up, and after
de-pressurizing the Motive, slid it back into the caliper and reattached the
dust boot around it, properly.  Cleaned everything up, replaced everything
else, and bled it for quite awhile.

Did the LF, then went for a drive to bed the brakes.  Hmmm.  Brakes very,
very spongy.  Dang.  Came back, and re-bled all four wheels AGAIN.  Didn't
notice much air coming out of the RF, and hardly any from the others (a few
nearly-microscopic bubbles, that's it).  Double-dang.  Brake pedal felt
firmer, but still not as hard as it is in my other cars, though it may be
comparable to my own 740.

Should I just bleed it all again?  Is there a different bleed technique if
I've introduced air at the caliper?  Has it moved up the system?  Or is
there something I've totally missed?

Thanks!

vty,

--Dennis


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