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Volume 2 : Issue 627 : "text" Format

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  E36 power locks not locking remotely
  Re: E36 power locks not locking remotely
  E36 oxygen sensor installation
  Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
  Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
  Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
  Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
  Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
  Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
  bimmerworld cooling plates
  Re: Tire purchase
  Re: Tire purchase
  E28 good project or not

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:20:23 -0500
From: "Roy T. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: E36 power locks not locking remotely
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a bizarre problem on my E36.  The doors will not lock when I use
the remote for keyless entry. All the locks are functioning and if I am
in the car and lock the drivers door then all the locks lock.  Likewise
if I use the key in the drivers door all the locks lock.  If the doors
are locked and I click the remote then all the doors will unlock as
normal and the car will chirp twice and disable the alarm.  If I hit the
button with the doors unlocked I get a single chirp and the alarm is
turned on but the doors do not actually lock.  This problem started to
happen last year at the end of the summer.  When it got cold out
everything started working again.  Now that it is getting warm again the
doors will not lock when I click the button on the remote.  Anyone have
any suggestions on where to start?  It seems as though everything is
fine and that it is just not sending a signal to the door locks.  Is
there a way to change the functionality on the system?  I have not
changed anything, at least not that I am aware of, but now that it is
getting warm the door locks seem to stop locking again.  Any advice
would be appreciated. Thanks

Roy Collins

1996 328i - crazy locks that only unlock remotely


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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:37:53 -0700
From: allister brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roy T. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "<[email protected]>" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: E36 power locks not locking remotely
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

my 2 cents....
new remote battery?
a


On Apr 19, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Roy T. Collins wrote:

> I have a bizarre problem on my E36.  The doors will not lock when I use
> the remote for keyless entry. All the locks are functioning and if I am
> in the car and lock the drivers door then all the locks lock.  Likewise
> if I use the key in the drivers door all the locks lock.  If the doors
> are locked and I click the remote then all the doors will unlock as
> normal and the car will chirp twice and disable the alarm.  If I hit  
> the
> button with the doors unlocked I get a single chirp and the alarm is
> turned on but the doors do not actually lock.  This problem started to
> happen last year at the end of the summer.  When it got cold out
> everything started working again.  Now that it is getting warm again  
> the
> doors will not lock when I click the button on the remote.  Anyone have
> any suggestions on where to start?  It seems as though everything is
> fine and that it is just not sending a signal to the door locks.  Is
> there a way to change the functionality on the system?  I have not
> changed anything, at least not that I am aware of, but now that it is
> getting warm the door locks seem to stop locking again.  Any advice
> would be appreciated. Thanks
>
> Roy Collins
>
> 1996 328i - crazy locks that only unlock remotely
>
> Search the  
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
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> ___
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> CCA.
>
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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:05:25 -0700
From: "Reed Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, "'E36M3'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: E36 oxygen sensor installation
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Has anyone installed the precat oxygen sensors in an E36 M3, 3.2?  Any tips
on where to access them from, or any other tricks?  Or if you could point me
toward the info, that would be great.

Thanks,
Reed/Seattle



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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:26:26 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I don't understand this statement. The top spring pad/plate rotates with 
the strut shaft. As a consequence, the end of the top coil can be 
oriented in any location and any fraction of a turn.

Ed

Gary Derian wrote:

> Also BMW front springs have a specific number of coils to fit properly 
> so one can only cut springs in whole coil increments.


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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:10:22 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ed MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The spring and strut can be assembled no matter where the coils end but the 
spring is not concentric with the strut, it is offset.  The top plate will 
be parallel with the bottom plate (welded to the tube) at only a specific 
rotation.  If the spring is cut at other than a whole coil, the resultant 
assembly will bow the spring and place an incorrect side load on the strut.

I was severely disappointed with my Dinan E34 springs due to their being off 
by 1/2 coil.

Gary Derian



>I don't understand this statement. The top spring pad/plate rotates with 
>the strut shaft. As a consequence, the end of the top coil can be oriented 
>in any location and any fraction of a turn.
>
> Ed
>
> Gary Derian wrote:
>
>> Also BMW front springs have a specific number of coils to fit properly so 
>> one can only cut springs in whole coil increments.
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 



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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:43:43 -0400
From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Gary,

"Also BMW front springs have a specific number of coils to fit properly
so one can only cut springs in whole coil increments."

Is this really true?  As I recall, the upper perch (at least on my e36
applications) is allowed to rotate relative to the strut, i.e. lower
perch.  I'm not familiar enough with the e30 however, so throw out my
comments if they differ.
On my e36, the upper perch is not keyed, nor is it forced to align with
the strut mount in any way.  It should be free to rotate save for
clamping loads.
If that's true, you should be able to cut any fraction of a coil from
the spring and maintain a proper 'seat' on the perch.
I have noticed that the top and bottom of the spring do "line up", but I
figured that was a manufacturing thing as to not have a bunch of waste
when making the springs.

Rear springs are a whole different story, those small diameter coils and
tapered wire at the ends help create a linear rate throughout the
spring's operating range.  Yet it allows a much larger operating range
(before coil bind) than a traditional linear race-type spring.
I've measured OE rear spring rates on two different e36's and indeed the
rate is VERY linear throughout the operating range despite what the
visual appearance suggests from the bee hive design.  Fronts are linear
too, but it is far more obvious.

Cheers,
Chet Dawes


-----Original Message-----


Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:01:24 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JKerouac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Car springs are wound hot, to there is no big deal in heating them
again.
One wants to take care to match a pair, and the end coils need to be
slightly closed to fit properly in the spring seats.  Also BMW front
springs
have a specific number of coils to fit properly so one can only cut
springs
in whole coil increments.

Gary Derian


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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:13:21 -0400
From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Ahhh, I see!  That makes sense.  Thanks for the explanation. 

As a side note:
The rear springs (albeit different mount style and spring type) go
through this all the time.  As the trailing arm moves in an arc, the
upper/lower seats are not parallel except in one small point in motion.
So I wonder which is better, non-parallel spring/damper motion or
springs not seated properly in their perch?

Not that it matters too much for me......with adj. coil-over struts and
linear 'race' springs I can simply adjust the perch height rather than
cutting/heating coils.  :)

Chet

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:01 AM
To: Dawes, Chet ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UUC] cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs

The springs and seat can be assembled in any angular rotation to fit the

coils, but the spring centerline is not parallel to the strut
centerline.
The top seat is only parallel to the bottom seat in one particular
angular
orientation.

It can be assembled and used, but the springs will be bowed in any but
the
proper orientation.

Gary Derian

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:01:14 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The springs and seat can be assembled in any angular rotation to fit the 
coils, but the spring centerline is not parallel to the strut centerline. 
The top seat is only parallel to the bottom seat in one particular angular 
orientation.

It can be assembled and used, but the springs will be bowed in any but the 
proper orientation.

Gary Derian

>
> Gary,
>
> "Also BMW front springs have a specific number of coils to fit properly
> so one can only cut springs in whole coil increments."
>
> Is this really true?  As I recall, the upper perch (at least on my e36
> applications) is allowed to rotate relative to the strut, i.e. lower
> perch.  I'm not familiar enough with the e30 however, so throw out my
> comments if they differ.
> On my e36, the upper perch is not keyed, nor is it forced to align with
> the strut mount in any way.  It should be free to rotate save for
> clamping loads.
> If that's true, you should be able to cut any fraction of a coil from
> the spring and maintain a proper 'seat' on the perch.
> I have noticed that the top and bottom of the spring do "line up", but I
> figured that was a manufacturing thing as to not have a bunch of waste
> when making the springs.
>
> Rear springs are a whole different story, those small diameter coils and
> tapered wire at the ends help create a linear rate throughout the
> spring's operating range.  Yet it allows a much larger operating range
> (before coil bind) than a traditional linear race-type spring.
> I've measured OE rear spring rates on two different e36's and indeed the
> rate is VERY linear throughout the operating range despite what the
> visual appearance suggests from the bee hive design.  Fronts are linear
> too, but it is far more obvious.
>
> Cheers,
> Chet Dawes


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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:25:41 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The front springs are offset specifically to apply a side load to the struts 
to counteract the side load applied by the weight of the front.  Stated 
another way, the spring centerline is concurrent with the steering axis. 
The lower part of the strut is inboard of the steering axis to clear the 
tire.

Bowing the spring changes the counteracting side load on the strut (straight 
line driving) and increases friction and wear.  This is not the end of the 
world, but it isn't right, either.  Note that coil-overs are centered over 
the strut and also do not supply the correct counteracting side load. 
Cornering loads are much higher and in the opposite direction from straight 
line loads, so this is not an issue in racing.

Rear springs bow in normal use on BMWs and many other cars but have no 
effect on strut side loads.

Gary Derian

>
> Ahhh, I see!  That makes sense.  Thanks for the explanation.
>
> As a side note:
> The rear springs (albeit different mount style and spring type) go
> through this all the time.  As the trailing arm moves in an arc, the
> upper/lower seats are not parallel except in one small point in motion.
> So I wonder which is better, non-parallel spring/damper motion or
> springs not seated properly in their perch?
>
> Not that it matters too much for me......with adj. coil-over struts and
> linear 'race' springs I can simply adjust the perch height rather than
> cutting/heating coils.  :)
>
> Chet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: Dawes, Chet ; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] cutting coils/ was: OFFER: E30 325e springs
>
> The springs and seat can be assembled in any angular rotation to fit the
>
> coils, but the spring centerline is not parallel to the strut
> centerline.
> The top seat is only parallel to the bottom seat in one particular
> angular
> orientation.
>
> It can be assembled and used, but the springs will be bowed in any but
> the
> proper orientation.
>
> Gary Derian
>
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>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com 


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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:34:31 -0500
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: bimmerworld cooling plates
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It's time to get ready for another track season and I'm thinking of 
getting Bimmerworld's brake cooling kit. I currently run Hawk Blues and 
they're not quite up to the way I drive. Yes, a number of you may say I 
need to work on braking technique, but other than the two times I ran 
Hawk HT-10s I have never felt consistantly confident in the brakes. I 
run mostly at Blackhawk and some at Gingerman.

I figure I should either go w/HT-10s or stay w/the Blues and cool them 
down. The advantage of cooling things is better rotor and bearing life. 
The disadvantage is the initial cost of the backing plate. I'm not sure 
how many more seasons an '87 w/over 240K miles will last.

Would appreciate anybody's thoughts on this.

Clarence

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:42:37 -0400
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Thanks Rich.

Clyde

>From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [UUC]  Tire purchase
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:56:56 -0400
>
>The T1R are very expensive AFAIK, a fair bit more than T1-S which aren't
>particularly cheap either.  Also, they aren't currently available in the US
>(who knows when they will be, no info from Toyo).
>
>One place that carries the T1R (1010tires.com) has the 235/40/17 for $230
>each (compared to $170 for T1-S) and 245/40/17 for $235 (compared to $180
>for T1-S).
>
>I think I would do the Michelin Pilot Sport 2 (PS2) over the T1-S and the
>SO-3.
>
>Later,
>
>Rich
>
>95 M3 - shod with Michelin PS2 (considered the T1-S and the S03 as well as
>all the others)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerry
> > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:15 PM
> > To: Marc Plante; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [UUC] Tire purchase
> >
> >
> > The Toyo T1-S is giving way to the T1-R.  The T1-R is suppose to
> > have beter wet and dry characteristics and much better wear.  The
> > tire edges ie.(X_____X) have a moderately harder compound to
> > reduce edge wear caused by camber related problems and/or
> > enthusiastic driving opportunities.
> > Gerry
>
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>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 00:43:49 -0400
From: "m3 drvr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Tire purchase
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Thanks Andre.   I am not having much luck so I wil stick with the popular 
choices for now.

Clyde

>From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UUC] Tire purchase
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:07:11 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, m3 drvr wrote:
> > I think the Tire rack is a excellent site for researching
> > tires but even they don't sell Toyo's and I wonder why?
>
>According to a source high up in the Toyo corporate hierarchy, they don't
>want Tire Rack setting their selling price for them.  You have to shop
>around, but there are places that will sell Toyos at fairly substantial
>discounts.
>
>--Andre
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com



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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:59:13 -0500
From: "Roy T. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: E28 good project or not
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I have an old E28 528e that is starting to feel its age.  I am
considering letting the car go but I have had so many fun times in it...
driving, I might add.  It was my first BMW afterall. It is bone stock
and I was wondering if I should keep it around.  I have been looking to
get a car to play around with that is both fun to drive and reasonably
cheap to work on.  I want to get a car to work on that will eventually
be something fun to drive.  I am concerned with this car that I will put
a lot of money into it and end up with a great daily driver but not an
exceptionaly fun car to drive.  I already thought that it was
underpowered espescially after getting the e36.  I do love the smaller
size of the car but the balance and responsiveness is what sold me on
it.  The 5 year old BMW, at the time, was much better than the Taurus
when it was new.  

Anyway I guess the question I have is should I use this car to build on
or go with a better model, maybe not even BMW?  I could put a larger
motor in. 2.8l M20 I think was the largest for the series, not really
sure though.  Just overhauling the motor will return a lot of power.
Plus the car has an automatic right now and I would want to put a 5
speed in.  I want a car that will take a lot of work so that I can get
very intimate with it.  At the same time I don't want to put a lot of
custom work into the car since that adds to the cost quickly and makes
repairs much more expensive.  Anyone know what the availablity is for
old E28's.  Are there lots of them around in junk yards?  I don't seem
many listed on most car selling services. 
 Im a just looking for any one with expirence to offer their opinion.
Is it a good project car that ends up being fun to drive?  Maybe do a
track event or two in it.  Reasonably inexpensive, you could buy another
whole E28 for a couple grand so parts shouldn't be too bad, right?  Any
one have a good resource on people that modify old E28s.  Any info would
be great.  

Roy Collins

1996 328i  still quick and lean
1984 528e  tired ol' daily driver looking for new life
 


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