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  Re: Track pads
  Re: Track pads
  Re: Track pads
  Re: Track pads
  Re: (E36) broken rear sway bar mount
  Re: <e90> Looks
  Re: <e90> Looks
  Brent Please Resend
  Re: <e90> Looks
  <E36> Antenna Leads
  Re: <E36> Antenna Leads
  Re: <E36> Yoko noises
  Cam Posistion Sensor going bad

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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:40:31 -0400
From: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Track pads
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I believe Jurid or Textar would have been the OE pad on the MZ3.  I think
my '99 had Textars initially but they were replaced with new Jurids or an
improved Textar after about 25k (when they were getting pretty worn
down) when I gave the dealer a TSB number when they did an oil change
or something on the car.  they all dust like a mo-fo tho.


Ben
needs to reply to a note Ping sent a couple of months back...


Ping  wrote:
> I replaced my MCoupe pads last night with carbon metallic pads in preparation
> for this weekends autox. I was surprised to see they had Jurids in there!
> Are they the OEM from the factory? Does anybody know?


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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:47:09 -0400
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Track pads
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks, Ben. 

You're right, they dust like crazy. I can't wait the replace the rears too. You 
could use a shovel to remove all the collected dust last night. It is obscene. 
You know, I'm loving this MCoupe now. It's a keeper.

Pingger
> 
> From: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/05/16 Mon PM 03:40:31 EDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] Track pads
> 
> I believe Jurid or Textar would have been the OE pad on the MZ3.  I think
> my '99 had Textars initially but they were replaced with new Jurids or an
> improved Textar after about 25k (when they were getting pretty worn
> down) when I gave the dealer a TSB number when they did an oil change
> or something on the car.  they all dust like a mo-fo tho.
> 
> 
> Ben
> needs to reply to a note Ping sent a couple of months back...
> 
> 
> Ping  wrote:
> > I replaced my MCoupe pads last night with carbon metallic pads in 
> > preparation
> > for this weekends autox. I was surprised to see they had Jurids in there!
> > Are they the OEM from the factory? Does anybody know?
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:20:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Track pads
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The honorable Carey Probst wrote:

>I finally need to upgrade to a better pad for track work on my '86 eta.  
>Between the diff upgrade and head work I how can kill a set in a weekend 
>at Watkins Glen. (good cause getting faster, bad cause getting expensive)
>
>I know there are a lot of choices for the E36M3 but not sure what works 
>well on the E30.
>
>Thanks
>
>Carey

Hey Carey,

Too bad we didn't get a chance to chat about this at the Glen!

Now that PF90s are unobtainable in E30-nonM3 fitment I had a similar
problem.  Last weekend we tried Hawk HT10s in front (thanks to whoever
made that recommendation).  My brother runs in A-group, I instruct, so
the car gets a lot of use.  (For the record, rear pads were Mintex 1144.)

With PF90s we would typically go through a full set on Friday (open
track day) and most of another set on Sat/Sun.  The HT10s were new
on Friday morning, and when we pulled them Sunday afternoon there
was still about 2/3 thickness left!  Braking was consistent and robust
throughout the weekend, and the pads were remarkably dust-free, much
cleaner than PF90s and Hawk Blues.  They did slightly score the rotors,
but less so than Blues.

A couple of friends also run HT10s in their E30 M3s and have expressed
similar happiness.

Of course, this is a very grippy 318is with chipped-but-otherwise-stock
motor, but we do flog the hamsters pretty hard.

Chalk me up as a Hawk HT10 convert.

Steve

'91 318is with four very tired hamsters
'99 323is bone stock daily driver
'01 330xi spousal wunderkar

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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:37:35 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "'Steve.Goldstein'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Track pads
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The honorable Carey Probst wrote:

>I finally need to upgrade to a better pad for track work on my '86 eta.
>Between the diff upgrade and head work I how can kill a set in a weekend 
>at Watkins Glen. (good cause getting faster, bad cause getting expensive)

HRH Steve Goldstein added:

>Too bad we didn't get a chance to chat about this at the Glen!

>Now that PF90s are unobtainable in E30-nonM3 fitment I had a similar
problem.  Last weekend we tried Hawk HT10s in front (thanks to whoever made
that recommendation).  My brother runs in A-group, I instruct, so the car
gets a lot of use.  (For the record, rear pads were Mintex 1144.)

>With PF90s we would typically go through a full set on Friday (open track
day) and most of another set on Sat/Sun.  The HT10s were new on Friday
morning, and when we pulled them Sunday afternoon there was still about 2/3
thickness left!  Braking was consistent and robust throughout the weekend,
and the pads were remarkably dust-free, much cleaner than PF90s and Hawk
Blues.  They did slightly score the rotors, but less so than Blues.

_______________

Ok, all this talk about brake pads at the Glen have me curious.  I've driven
a few different cars at the Glen, including a 996 with stock brakes and
PFC-97 pads, a 355 with stock brakes with PFC-97 pads, a 348 with stock
pads, and a 355 Challenge with upgraded Brembo racing brakes.  Most of the
time, I share the car with my wife.

I'm fairly a very hard braker - I late-brake for everything, and trail-brake
almost everywhere, but would like to think of myself as being smooth.  My
wife isn't nearly as hard on the brakes, as she's not as aggressive, but
still, she's very fast and very smooth.  I'm an instructor and my wife runs
in blue/intermediate/2.

In all of these events, I've never used a full set of pads on any car.

In fact, with the 996, the current rotors are the ORIGINAL rotors (40k
miles), with dozens of track days (between NHIS, LRP, WGI, and a few other
tracks tossed in).  I did go through the original fitment pads, and am
probably 3/4 of the way through the PFC-97s.  On the 355, new PFCs will last
me through an entire driving season, easily.  And the massive setup on the
Challenge car?  Though I only got it recently, I haven't seen ANY wear on
the brakes.

I consistently outbrake almost everyone else (hey, not to sound too
arrogant, believe me, I lose my braking advantage in lots of other places!),
but don't have nearly the wear on the brakes.  In one illustrative event,
with completely equal 355s at LRP, running the same number of sessions, a
friend went through an entire set of pads and made measureable wear on the
rotors, while I barely wore enough of the pad out to notice any difference.

So, am I just luckier?  Any these cars just better ducted so that the pads
don't wear as much?  Or does technique really matter that much?  

Thoughts?

vty,

--Dennis




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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:02:35 -0400
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: (E36) broken rear sway bar mount
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I think this is a known problem and that someone will have a
reinforcement for sale that can be welded on to prevent failure of the
factory piece.

- Jay
probably needs to check both E36 BMWs for this category of problem...

********************
> Developed a rattle in the rear the last few days, crawled under and
found a broken right side rear sway bar bracket.  I know there are weak
points to the E36, is this one?   I've done a few schools, along with a
number of autocrosses.  Suspension mods are H&R sport springs, Bilstein
shocks, Turner sway bars.  Any reason other than wear and tear?
> 
> Secondly, are there any upgraded parts to install?  Or just replace
every 100K miles?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> '96 328i
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 




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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:51:07 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <e90> Looks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

on 5/16/05 1:57 PM, "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

 I like it; it evolves the attractive parts of the contnuous 3-series
> appearance, with minimized contamination of the newer look that smears the
> E60 and E65.  In particular, the healight treatment finally resolves the
> newer turn signal treatment (E65 - '90s Ford Explorer, E60 - Dame Edna) into
> an attractive shape.

That's how it struck me too. I think it's on the right side of the
Bangle-ization line, distinctive without offending. (From my perspective the
new 7 is over the line, the new 5 is just plain weak looking other than the
offensive Dame Edna parts and the Z4 balances on the knife edge).

I drove the new E90 330i 6-speed with sport package and found it pretty
tasty. The new Valvetronic engine, despite its myriad of moving parts in the
valve train felt very smooth and willing to rev, every inch a BMW six.
Handling was tight and ride firm but not too much so. In fact overall it
felt quite like the E46 330i PP, and I mean that in a good way. The one I
drove didn't have iDrive or Nav, so no problem there.

One nice interior touch: the storage compartment under the armrest had a
power outlet and audio aux input jack.

They've also held the price, $42K and change for the one I drove. Not bad
considering what the dollar has done against the Euro, not that anyone would
pay 50 large for a 3 series.

> The trapezoidal front end of the E90 is where Audi should have stopped; the
> current Audis are all about the grille, to the point of distraction.  Of a
> good grille is a standard moustache, the Audis are wearing full-face ZZ Top
> beards that hang too low.

I'll say, although if you want an even more egregious schnozz-grille, try
the Suburu Tribeca. Jamie Kitman in Car, musing about the connotations of
the Tribeca name, asked why they didn't just call it the "Slacker Gayboy"
instead.

Neil
Fort Wayne, IN
96 M3      - Bastard child
03 525iT   - Sterling Grey Metallic
77 MGB     - Original owner, need to sell
05 Mini    - Cooper S with LSD!




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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:11:36 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <e90> Looks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On May 16, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Neil Maller wrote:
>>  I like it; it evolves the attractive parts of the contnuous 3-series
>> appearance, with minimized contamination of the newer look that  
>> smears the
>> E60 and E65.  In particular, the healight treatment finally  
>> resolves the
>> newer turn signal treatment (E65 - '90s Ford Explorer, E60 - Dame  
>> Edna) into
>> an attractive shape.
>>
>
> That's how it struck me too. I think it's on the right side of the
> Bangle-ization line, distinctive without offending. (From my  
> perspective the
> new 7 is over the line, the new 5 is just plain weak looking other  
> than the
> offensive Dame Edna parts and the Z4 balances on the knife edge).

I just followed one of these down the road here today at lunch.   
While I saw one up-close at the 3 Across America thing at Laguna Seca  
a couple of weeks back, this was the first time I'd seen one doing  
its thing.

The rear-end is absolutely, completely awful in person.  Possibly the  
worst rear-end treatment on a Bangle car yet.  It's all pinched in  
with large radius edges and its just a mess all the way around, from  
every angle.  It leaves the car with no presence whatsoever.

Which is a damned shame, since the rest of the car is very good.   
I've been reading people's comments on the bifurcated grill and I  
don't think it's the fact that the grill is split that's the problem,  
it's that the upper grill edge is wider than the rest of the grill  
surround and it just looks bad.  The fact that its shiny chrome just  
calls attention to it.

- Mark
-----
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Check out my JustRacing Home Page at:
http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar


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Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 02:44:56 -0500
From: "Celisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Brent Please Resend
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Brent thanks so much for sending that page again. If you would, resend that 
to me please. I accidently deleted it. Very sorry. Thanks very much in 
advance.

  Celisa
'99 328is 



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Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:30:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <e90> Looks
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If anyone's interested, here's the selling brochure for the E90 (it's
basically the training manual for the sales people, but goes into a lot of
interesting detail):

http://clem.e46fanatics.com/BfestE90/BFestE90.pdf

There's lots of interesting stuff in there, including the suspension (same
rear 5-link one used in the Z4 as well as well as how the sport package
variants are different), the aluminum, finned front brake calipers, and
the array of aftermarket accessories, including strut braces, louder
mufflers (!), and smoked lenses (!!). 

--Andre


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Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:14:24 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E36> Antenna Leads
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In futsing with my head unit this weekend I noticed that there were two
antenna leads. The std large barrel type and in parallel to that one a much
smaller lead. Anyone know what that is?

Also, I now have AM working but only the strongest stations come in. What
is the common cause for this. Previously I didn't have any AM but the
previous owner did not correctly hook up the power lead to the diversity
antenna. This is what I did in removing the headunit.

Whoever said that stuffing the wires back into their deep dark recesses
would be the toughest part of the job wasn't kidding.


-Kevin



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Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:14:40 -0700
From: Greg Cagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> Antenna Leads
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I thought the smaller one was the second antenna lead for the diversity
system.

- Greg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In futsing with my head unit this weekend I noticed that there were two
> antenna leads. The std large barrel type and in parallel to that one a much
> smaller lead. Anyone know what that is?
> 
> Also, I now have AM working but only the strongest stations come in. What
> is the common cause for this. Previously I didn't have any AM but the
> previous owner did not correctly hook up the power lead to the diversity
> antenna. This is what I did in removing the headunit.

-- 
Greg Cagle
gregc at gregcagle dot com

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Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:36:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Yoko noises
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hahahah Andre!

Looks like Yoko sticks to similar design on their
tires, as on most of the models of their tires people
complain about tramlining.

The Yoko AVS ES100s on my 95 M3 tramline like crazy
also, and are very loud as well when braking.  (I hate
these tires).  I noticed they sounded very weird when
I would stop, but I haven't heard of that sort of
description of the noise.  Thinking of it, that's
actually quite an accurate description of it.  Hehe.
;)

Of course, they're worn down to nearly slicks, so that
doesn't help any either.  I've been looking for deals
around my area for some new tires, so it'll just be a
short while before I pick some up.

Brian
95 M3

--- Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2005, Paul Garnier wrote:
> > Pilot Sport PS2's - This tire was made for my car.
> Dunno about mileage yet.
> 
> That's how I feel about mine, too --- like they were
> made for my car. 
> I've got over 15K miles on them so far, and 6 track
> days, and they still
> have plenty of tread on them.  They are getting
> harder and noisier, but
> are still very usable.  The previous mileage champs
> were Yokohama AVS
> Sports which lasted almost 20K miles, but tramlined
> like mad, and, near
> the end, sounded like a UFO landing on my roof
> whenever I braked.
> 
> --Andre
> Y2K E46 328Ci
> 
> Search the
>
ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
>
__________________________________________________________________________
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> founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
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> home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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> 


                
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Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:42:41 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: Cam Posistion Sensor going bad
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Well, I finally bit the bullet and bought the AutoEnginuity ODBII 
hardware/software for my laptop.  I checked my 96 ti Sport and it says I have a 
problem with the Cam position Sensor.  I knew something was up when it kept 
throwing CEL's and then they would go away and come back the next day.  Also, 
it seems to have a a bouncy idle at times and sometimes after having been at 
speed and stop at a light, it seems to be idling fine, but just as soon as that 
clutch touches it will act like it has no power and stalls...like it is idling, 
but not making any power.

What is the latest word on price and part number for this little charmer.  
Also, if I remember correctly it is easy to get to, but the connector 
isn't...something about having to remove the upper intake???  

Any and all feedback would be appreciated, as I may try to do this myself if my 
back holds out.

thanks,

David in Richmond, VA

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