The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 682 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: M3 Engine block ID help Re: M3 Engine block ID help Re: Novice students, what is the answer? Re: Novice students, what is the answer? Re: Installing VDO guages '91 318i timing chain rattle??? WayWayOBmarco and dan-personal-DELETE NOW
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:31:16 -0500 From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: M3 Engine block ID help Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just want to verify that I got what I paid for. The engine/tranny came out of a '95 325is into which it had been installed. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Romani Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] M3 Engine block ID help just curious - why do you care? Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] M3 Engine block ID help Thanks Brett. Unfortunately the engine does not have the VIN sticker on the back of the head anymore. There is a stamp on the block in white paint up by the oil filter housing that looks like it is Sept of 1998. The block also has the crankshaft sensor in the rear, indicating it was OBD2. But there was one other spot on the block that had the numbers: 300 31 983 32 6S 2 Any idea what those #'s might stand for? I think the 32 means it is a 3.2L. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [UUC] M3 Engine block ID help The first picture shows the BMW part number of the cylinder block, 1 748 933. The other number is some form of serial, but I'm not aware of a cross reference chart. There should be a VIN sticker on the back of the cylinder head. If so, email me the last 7 digits of that VIN and I'll tell you what the car was. Brett Anderson KMS Original Message: ----------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:16:34 -0500 To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] M3 Engine block ID help I have an M3 engine that I am refreshing to install in my 318ti. I was told it was from a '99 M3. Can anyone give me any info on the engine based the the following pictures I took of the #'s that are cast/etched into the block? http://home.alltel.net/jb44051/engine1.jpg http://home.alltel.net/jb44051/engine2.jpg Thanks in advance for any assitance! Jeff -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:19:27 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: M3 Engine block ID help Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh. Sorry I don't have the BMW secret decoder ring to decrypt those casting numbers. ;-) You mention you're refreshing the engine. The bore on a S52 should be 86.4mm anything less than that and you don't have an S52. If you have a borescope handy you'll see that that S52 valve reliefs are fairly deep and nearly the same for the intake and exhaust. on the S50 and others the exhaust reliefs aren't as deep as the ones on a S52. for a picture http://www.bmwccaclubracing.com/static/images/piston/piston.htm If you're not removing the head it's a little harder to know unless someone can decipher the numbers you provided. Also I'm assuming the 95 325is was an OBD 1, I believe they were, my 95 M3 was. If so OBD I heads have two water temp senders side by side on the intake side of the head, the OBD II heads have one sender with a quad output. The oil cap is on the rear of the valve cover on a 325 M50 motor, it's in the front on a S52 and it's some sort of plastic. The oil pans are slightly different in that hole for the dipstick tube is different but I can't remember which is bigger. But both of those could have been swapped around. The 325 M50 and the M3 S50 exhaust manifold are bulky cast iron where as the S52 is less bulky (crappy description sorry) I can't thing of anything else off the top of my head that is an indicator that you have an S52. The injectors are larger (fuel flow rating )than on an S50 or M50. The S50 and M50 have a light blue tip, the S52 are purple. I don't know if the color coding is some sort of standard and many guys run aftermarket injectors. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] M3 Engine block ID help Just want to verify that I got what I paid for. The engine/tranny came out of a '95 325is into which it had been installed. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Romani Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] M3 Engine block ID help just curious - why do you care? Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] M3 Engine block ID help Thanks Brett. Unfortunately the engine does not have the VIN sticker on the back of the head anymore. There is a stamp on the block in white paint up by the oil filter housing that looks like it is Sept of 1998. The block also has the crankshaft sensor in the rear, indicating it was OBD2. But there was one other spot on the block that had the numbers: 300 31 983 32 6S 2 Any idea what those #'s might stand for? I think the 32 means it is a 3.2L. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [UUC] M3 Engine block ID help The first picture shows the BMW part number of the cylinder block, 1 748 933. The other number is some form of serial, but I'm not aware of a cross reference chart. There should be a VIN sticker on the back of the cylinder head. If so, email me the last 7 digits of that VIN and I'll tell you what the car was. Brett Anderson KMS Original Message: ----------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:16:34 -0500 To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] M3 Engine block ID help I have an M3 engine that I am refreshing to install in my 318ti. I was told it was from a '99 M3. Can anyone give me any info on the engine based the the following pictures I took of the #'s that are cast/etched into the block? http://home.alltel.net/jb44051/engine1.jpg http://home.alltel.net/jb44051/engine2.jpg Thanks in advance for any assitance! Jeff -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:46:36 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Novice students, what is the answer? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill: Agreed to all of your points...I suppose you've met Dave Bryan in the NCC chapter? The NCC chapter is blessed with the Jefferson circuit at Summit Point, which is a lower speed track, with skidpad access. Other schools I've been to at places like the Glen do compel the students to mash down the gas first, then ask questions later. We try to teach car control, but skidpads are limited resources and students are given a scant amount of time on them. Icling to the notion of controlling students, starting first and foremost with their speed. If they're traveling at a rate of speed comensurate with their skills and the surroundings, you have a chance. This can be tough to do given the horsepower available and the peer pressure these days. Given all of my aspirations to try to manage the situation, I'm always happy when I can get a spot teaching at the skidpad. Another factor that can help is rain. It makes the track more treacherous, but it slows students down and takes the aggressive edge off. Perhaps entry-schools in stadium parking lots are the answer, though I know that in the DC area, parking lots are at a premium and tend to be occupied by Autocrossers and sports fans. Are any of the chapters doing dedicated schools in stadium lots other than auto-X schools? GGC chapter? I prolly shouldn't start a thread I can't finish. Flying to HI in an hour Marc Plante E36 M3/4, 64k Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:36:52 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Novice students, what is the answer? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Jun 4, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Marc Plante wrote: > Perhaps entry-schools in stadium parking lots are the answer, > though I know that in the DC area, parking lots are at a premium > and tend to be occupied by Autocrossers and sports fans. Are any > of the chapters doing dedicated schools in stadium lots other than > auto-X schools? GGC chapter? Yes, GGC chapter requires attendance at a Car Control Clinic, held in a stadium-style parking lot, before your first track school. We encourage multiple attendances and this year we are starting to hold the CCCs and autocrosses on successive weekend days to make more of a "car control weekend" out of it. The Car Control Clinics are a one-day event featuring a braking/lane- toss exercise, an oval skid pad, and a slalom. They are also a lot of fun. Info here: http://tinyurl.com/5nph9 - Mark Driving Events Coordinator, GGC BMW CCA ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From: wy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: Installing VDO guages Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here is the update to the VDO install. The glovebox comes out easily after removing the 10mm nut, hidden behind the glovebox light. The ABS control unit was remove to gain access to the 2nd opening to the engine bay. Using a screwdrive to punch through a hole in the rubber shield. The wire was route through the same location as the factory wiring, under the HVAC intake and intake manifold. There is no room to run the wire through the same hole as the battery wire. The Edge Motorsport kit is pretty well made. You adjust the tilt angle of individual gauges. Will Get Firefox! __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 22:38:31 -0700 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bmw digest" <[email protected]> Subject: '91 318i timing chain rattle??? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm looking at a 91 318i tomorrow that has owner described timing chain rattle - I'm suspecting it is the typical tensioner problem reported on the internet, but am unable to get a $53 tensioner to take up with me (car is 60 miles away). What kind of risk do you think I would be taking if I drove it home? Major lunch the engine risk or oh hell - drove mine for a month rattling w/ no problems kind of risk? The owner says it started rattling and he hasn't driven it since. Installation of a new tensioner calls for running the engine @ 3500RPM for 20 seconds to pump up the tensioner - which is a lot different than running for an hour on the road, but stil... Whatta you think? help? Thanks - Tom 533i, 325i, 318i? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 01:56:05 -0700 From: allister brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "<[email protected]> <[email protected]>" <[email protected]> Subject: WayWayOBmarco and dan-personal-DELETE NOW Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> well hello this is an awesome list been on holiday and wanted to get back on two things real face to face first impressions are dependable BUT on the internet i have made serious personal blunders it seems marco is actually a great helpful dude and the rest is not mentionable apologies to all back in canada STARING AT a nuts and bolts M6 black on black PURRRRFETCKT jaw dropping CONCOURS ab 56 R50 56 R/100 conversion w/hack 69 R69S 76 R90/6 77 R100S 81 R100S 73 Bavaria 3.5-3 dellortos/auto-tooexpensivetodrive 82 320IS-DEALERS CHOICE 89 325IX-2nd Pick 3-74 Yamaha TY250s-keepsmesmiling 95 M5 OW hidden agenda-more sidecars PS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO COULDNT RESIST;;;;;;;;;;;;;; THIS IS THE REAL ALLISTER BROWN;;;;;;;; for the record MISTER dktrv got over a thousand bucks from me and some fedex fu is .........like i said unmentionable....50 b(d)ucks??<@#$%^bite me da?......#$%^&* FU-DK is that a duck? check the italian lists................................................................... ......................................... trying to be more attentive ALLISTER BROWN ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(7 messages) **********
