The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 685 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: E36 Can't fill the tank (no subject) E46 323iT: Oil in Coolant Re: E46 323iT: Oil in Coolant Re: E46 323iT: Oil in Coolant More on Charging System Mystery Re: Tiff tests the E60 M5 (was Novice students with big HP)
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:31:16 -0400 From: "Gaudio, Stefano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E36 Can't fill the tank Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had the similar problem at the Glen last year filing up at the "Kwik" gas station. Pulling it out he handle slightly and moving the handle of the pump as high as possible fixed the issue. In my case, I only have this problem at that gas station. Stefano '98 M3 In response to: ----------- Trying to help a friend here. Anybody hear of this one before: The car is a 98' 323 E-36 convertible. M52 single vanos. When trying to fill the gas tank the fuel pump handle will click off repeatedly not allowing the tank to fill. Different gas station does not make a difference. Plugged vent tube or something like that? Anyone had this happen before? TIA. Andrew Harkonen '89 535i 5 spd '93 525iT (spice wagon) ----------- _____________________________________________________________ This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you received this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should destroy the e-mail message and any attachments or copies, and you are prohibited from retaining, distributing, disclosing or using any information contained herein. Please inform us of the erroneous delivery by return e-mail. Thank you for your cooperation. _____________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:33:36 -0700 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bmw digest" <[email protected]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Beep Beep beep Charging light never comes on and there's a charging problem? My immediate assumption is a burned out bulb that serves as an exciter for the alternator, though I thought I had read that BMW fixed that bit of poor planning with a resistor wired in parallel with the dash light. Still, as you say, a good place to start is the light. Tom W (replaced the alternator (twice) on an AMC Hornet back in the 1970s) (shouldn't have replaced it at all) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 23:25:15 -0400 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUCDigest" <[email protected]> Subject: Charging system mystery Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My daughter just bought a '93 318i that has a problem. It had a new battery when purchased (I should have known that was trouble). Today the car quit as she was driving on the freeway and wouldn't restart - battery run down. After getting it towed home, I jumped the battery and the car started just fine. I removed the alternator and had it tested at Pep Boys - it was fine. The charging system warning light never goes on. Assuming the warning light bulb is good, which I will check tomorrow, what might be going on? Thanks for the help. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:38:24 -0700 (PDT) From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: E46 323iT: Oil in Coolant Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After a long saga with BMW, not worth typing, they finally determined I had a cracked head and replaced under my CPO (at about 95k miles). 4-6 weeks later, low coolant light (again). It needed about 20z of water to top off. Took it in and they flushed the system and told me that happens after adding new coolant, air bubbles, etc. 4-6 weeks later my wife gets an oil level light. I check the level and it is fine and the oil doesn't look like it has any water. While doing that I check the coolant level and there is brown foam on the bottom of the cap. I shine a light into radiator and see a liquid that looks like a Cafe Latte. I put a white pen down there to get a sample and it comes back with a nice gob of oil on it. So, I take it to BMW and they tell me that given the head problem this should be expected and, and I quote, "you should see your expansion tank, it is a mess." However, there is nothing wrong and the system is tight. I have been the NICEST long term customer they have ever had. Never raised my voice as long as they paid for it. I don't buy this for a minute but maybe I lack knowledge. I know I don't want an oily cooling system no matter what. I think it is more serious and really don't want to go through the 6 visit saga again to have them figure it out. I am not concerned about warranty coverage as they have been fine in that regard but how do you get them to really tear the engine down and figure it out. I think it may be a cracked block. BTW, during the cracked head saga the cooling system always checked out until the color of the oil convinced them it was the head. Am I way off base here? Kevin Kelly '91 M5 (nice clear coolant) '00 323iT (foam or no foam?) __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:35:45 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "kjk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E46 323iT: Oil in Coolant Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They are jerking you around. Time for a V-8 conversion. Gary Derian > is brown foam on the bottom of the cap. I shine a > light into radiator and see a liquid that looks like a > Cafe Latte. I put a white pen down there to get a > sample and it comes back with a nice gob of oil on it. > So, I take it to BMW and they tell me that given the > head problem this should be expected and, and I quote, > "you should see your expansion tank, it is a mess." > However, there is nothing wrong and the system is > tight. > > Kevin Kelly > '91 M5 (nice clear coolant) > '00 323iT (foam or no foam?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:12:27 -0700 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: E46 323iT: Oil in Coolant Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin, Sounds like the service advise must be full of [foam]. In CA, the Bureau of Automotive Repair is quite responsive against shops in this kind of customer being lied to situation. AAA has diagnostic centers that can give an unbiased diagnosis which will carry strong weight if you file with the BAR. Also, now its easy to make a BAR complaint, you can do it on the Bureau of Automotive Repair website. Good luck, Barry kjk wrote: >After a long saga with BMW, not worth typing, they >finally determined I had a cracked head and replaced >under my CPO (at about 95k miles). 4-6 weeks later, >low coolant light (again). It needed about 20z of >water to top off. Took it in and they flushed the >system and told me that happens after adding new >coolant, air bubbles, etc. 4-6 weeks later my wife >gets an oil level light. I check the level and it is >fine and the oil doesn't look like it has any water. >While doing that I check the coolant level and there >is brown foam on the bottom of the cap. I shine a >light into radiator and see a liquid that looks like a >Cafe Latte. I put a white pen down there to get a >sample and it comes back with a nice gob of oil on it. >So, I take it to BMW and they tell me that given the >head problem this should be expected and, and I quote, >"you should see your expansion tank, it is a mess." >However, there is nothing wrong and the system is >tight. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:59:32 -0400 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bmw digest" <[email protected]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: More on Charging System Mystery Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've checked the items suggested so far - brushes and diodes in the alternator are good, the warning light bulb is good (12 ohms). At this point I'm assuming that the wire is broken carrying the voltage through the warning bulb to the alternator. As soon as I can get everything back together, I can do a measurement. In the mean time, does anyone have a wiring diagram or suggestion on how to trace it back? Thanks. Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:17:13 -0400 From: "Steve Stoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tiff tests the E60 M5 (was Novice students with big HP) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --:)))))thanks for sharing. That was a great pick up. One less cup of coffee for me today. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(7 messages) **********
