The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 790 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: '74 3.0CS FS Re: <E39> Sport Package Tire Options Re: <E39> Sport Package Tire Options WOT question Re: WOT question Re: <E39> Sport Package Tire Options FS '03 325, Moving Must Sell <e36> fails new smog test One more oil pressure question Re: One more oil pressure question Re: One more oil pressure question Re: One more oil pressure question Re: One more oil pressure question Re: One more oil pressure question
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:09:36 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: '74 3.0CS FS Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phil: That's what's cool about this car (sorry I forgort to list)....it's a "STICK"...has the original tools, beautiful plush black leather interior...original color (I sort of like Granatrot-Metallic)..NO RUST (at least not noticeable execept for maybe a few spots in the engine bay), power windows that actually work!, and on and on...the car was owned by a partner in Bavarian Enterprises in Harrisburg, PA..so it's been babied...actually stored for the last 15 years. Does that info change your "opinion" any? :-) I agree about the bumpers, but actually they don't look all that bad on this car...my mechanic has a '73 and I don't think this one is "uglier" due to the bumpers. Price?..I have no clue (maybe it definitely worth in the $12,000 range?)...now ask me about a 2002 and I know my stuff! :-) Take Care, John In a message dated 8/30/2005 1:28:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Assuming this is a U.S.-spec car with the battering-ram bumpers, some might still want to know that all-important question on an old coupe: Automatic or manual? For those unfamiliar, "pretty nice" on these cars doesn't warrant $15k. If it's a stick and a decent repaint, maybe two-thirds of that. If it were a more desirable color (particularly a non-metallic with original paint) and more desirable year (no big bumpers) it might hit the lower part of the estimated dealer asking-price range. But then this is a dealer and he probably gave the poor old valued customer wholesale book value based on NADA average retail of $7900 or less. Real E9 fans know the ones to buy are the pre-74 U.S. cars or Euro versions, in stick-shift only. -Phil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 08:24:50 -0700 From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E39> Sport Package Tire Options Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My buddy's E39 540 wagon with sport suspension gets 15K on a set of > tires due to the suspension settings. The cars with sport suspension > seem to be noted for this. Let's see here...our sport-package 540iA gets ~28-32K per set, mixed driving, it's had the OE SP2000s and some SP8000s and then some S-02s and then some SP8000s and now some SportContact2s and the only set that's ever gone less than 28K was the S-02s, they only lasted 24K. SP2000s worked very well on the car, SP8000s are a good all-rounder, S-02 more tire than that car's role in life required, likewise the SportContact2. The car's alignment settings are dead-stock, I have it checked more or less yearly and nothing's ever been far out, it's getting up to 100K now so it may need some parts pretty soon. I rotate the tires every 4 months or so ('98 has 17x8 all around, as would a 540i wagon.) There's no excuse not to rotate if the car's wheel setup permits it. My M5 has gotten a little over 20K per set, actually the OE SP8080s were at 14K when the front tire shoulders scrubbed down to the belts at Sears Point. With the S-03s it was unpredictable 'cause most of those ended their life due to punctures or belt separation, not treadwear, so I never wore out a complete set at the same time, eventually got disgusted with them so it's now on Pilot Sports. If I don't do PS2s on the M5 next time I'll probably go to the SportContact2, the set on the 540i feels a lot like the old S-02 in a lot of respects (very sharp turn-in, tons of grip, maintains its bite under sudden changes of loading, ride a little stiff) though not quite as noisy. > I decided to try the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S since they are in the > same line of new tires as the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 and Michelin > Pilot Exalto PE2 (that I have installed on my M3 and my 325is, > respectively) and I think are some of the best dry/wet tires > available today. I can see using an all-season tire where one gets an occasional dusting of snow, but there are plenty of three-season tires that work nicely in the rain. John. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:34:38 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E39> Sport Package Tire Options Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> High performance all season tires tend to wear much longer than 3 season tires. The downside is they fall apart on the track. That makes the all season a good choice for a non track driven car, even where there is no snow. Gary Derian > > I can see using an all-season tire where one gets an occasional dusting > of snow, but there are plenty of three-season tires that work nicely in > the rain. > > John. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:04:23 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: WOT question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When the ECU senses that the throttle is wide open and the control goes open loop, does the ECU simply go to a look up table to determine fuel load? Or does the injector simply stay open for a preset time regardless of air charge coming through the MAF? -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:24:57 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: WOT question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In older systems with the air door, the system ignores the air flow and goes to the WOT table. In newer systems with a hot wire or hot film sensor, the system reads the air flow. Gary Derian > When the ECU senses that the throttle is wide open and the control goes > open loop, does the ECU simply go to a look up table to determine fuel > load? Or does the injector simply stay open for a preset time regardless > of > air charge coming through the MAF? > > -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:08:29 -0700 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E39> Sport Package Tire Options Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 09:46:40AM -0400, Russell Highton Jr wrote: > They are $191 each from Tire rack in the 17" size for the e39. ...talkin about the Pilot Sport A/S, my e39 528i sport came with them at 72k, and nearing 20k miles later they're still in great shape. They've been quiet on road trips, and on the occasional fast entrance ramp I'm impressed with the grip and the lack of howling. Frankly, I can hardly believe that a used car came with tires this good! I shoulda been autocrossing the 528 instead of the e30 325 with those lousy cheap Kumho Ecsta 712 "howler specials". -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:24:38 -0500 From: "John Barbian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: FS '03 325, Moving Must Sell Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Moving out of the country, must sell! WBABN33483PC99985 35K miles This car is adult driven, dealer serviced and always garaged. Sport Package, Dark Green Metallic with tan interior No pets, no kids, no smoking in this car. Must sell, moving out of the country! Make Offer! 24,000 The car is located in Madison, WI 608.334.9306 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:43:17 -0700 From: Steven Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <e36> fails new smog test Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My 95 M3 recently failed the new CA smog test, it failed the 15mph dyno test with extremely high NO ppm (3250) and high HC (199), as a gross polluter. All other tests passed OK, even the 25 mph dyno. The car has a conforti chip in it. I've had it chipped for ~ 7 yrs and it has passed before with no problems, I always make sure the CAT is really warm! . After it failed I read the computer codes and I saw a 1226 code, check knock sensor. I just had an inspection II today and my shop says they see that timing intervention is active at idle, and timing advance measures 19 degrees, while normal values are 7-18. They found nothing else wrong, they recommended I change gas (from Valero to 76), put the original chip back in, and have it re-tested. Has anyone else had similar problems with the new test ? Do you agree with this advice ? thanks, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:44:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: One more oil pressure question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So one more question if you guys would and then I will leave this one alone. As i have currently posted, I just installed a VDO oil pressure gauge. At hot idle the gauge reads about 10psi. I am ok with this as my research and Gary's reply have indicated that this is around normal (right?). At idle when the motor is cold, it is around 30psi. The concern I have is at full load the pressure does not exceed 30psi. I have an ETA motor so I figure that my pressure reading will be lower than say the B25 in comparison. Does 30 psi seem normal for a motor that only revs up to 4500 RPM? I have a small oil leak (well relatively small) so I have taken this into consideration when I have contemplated this issue. I figure that the pressure should be atleast 40psi under a full load or up to 4000 RPM's, which would supply adequate pressure unless my motor is beginning to wear or my oil leak is worse then I think or one of the other causes of low oil pressure (I know there are a hand full). The Bentley specifies 55-80 psi for full load with the six cyl. motors. It does not specify which motor so that still does not answer my question. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Ryan- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:25:43 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: One more oil pressure question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No, 30 psi at higher rpms is too low, it should be approaching 60 psi or greater if the oil pump is working properly and the sensor and gauge are accurate. It won't really exceed 60 psi due to the oil pressure relief valve in my E36 M3. Also, my E36 M3 doesn't drop below about 18 psi when at idle and up to operating temps. For your '87 325e, BMW specs 0.5 bar (15 psi) at idle with engine at operating temps and 4.0-6.0 bar (58-87 psi). I can't say for certain whether the E30 has a oil pressure relief valve or not. Regards, Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan Simmons > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [UUC] One more oil pressure question > > > So one more question if you guys would and then I will leave this > one alone. > As i have currently posted, I just installed a VDO oil pressure gauge. At > hot idle the gauge reads about 10psi. I am ok with this as my research > and Gary's reply have indicated that this is around normal (right?). At > idle when the motor is cold, it is around 30psi. The concern I have is at > full load the pressure does not exceed 30psi. I have an ETA motor so I > figure that my pressure reading will be lower than say the B25 in > comparison. Does 30 psi seem normal for a motor that only revs up to 4500 > RPM? I have a small oil leak (well relatively small) so I have taken this > into consideration when I have contemplated this issue. I figure that the > pressure should be atleast 40psi under a full load or up to 4000 RPM's, > which would supply adequate pressure unless my motor is beginning to wear > or my oil leak is worse then I think or one of the other causes of low oil > pressure (I know there are a hand full). The Bentley specifies 55-80 psi > for full load with the six cyl. motors. It does not specify which motor > so that still does not answer my question. > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > Ryan- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:33:57 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: One more oil pressure question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For your '87 325e, BMW specs 0.5 bar (15 psi) at idle with engine at > operating temps and 4.0-6.0 bar (58-87 psi). I can't say for certain > whether the E30 has a oil pressure relief valve or not. Sorry about that, I didn't complete my first sentence. For your '87 325e, BMW specs 0.5 bar (15 psi) at idle with engine at operating temps and 4.0-6.0 bar (58-87 psi) at higher rpms (probably at 2,500 rpms or more). Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:35:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: One more oil pressure question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Rich. I did recently put 20/50 in because we have had relatively hot weather here in Oregon (80's and 90's), but it has been consistently in the 60's and 70's. Would switching back to the 10/40 help with some of this issue? i assume the gauge reading is correct since I followed the instructions and the gauge and sender are specific to my motor. I suppose I will do a compression check this weekend. The car runs great, and there isn't any excessive noise coming from the engine bay. The motor is still relatively quiet although it does have around 220,000 miles, which is not very much if you ask me. Thanks again, Ryan- No, 30 psi at higher rpms is too low, it should be approaching 60 psi or > greater if the oil pump is working properly and the sensor and gauge are > accurate. It won't really exceed 60 psi due to the oil pressure relief > valve in my E36 M3. Also, my E36 M3 doesn't drop below about 18 psi when > at > idle and up to operating temps. > > For your '87 325e, BMW specs 0.5 bar (15 psi) at idle with engine at > operating temps and 4.0-6.0 bar (58-87 psi). I can't say for certain > whether the E30 has a oil pressure relief valve or not. > > Regards, > > Rich > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan Simmons >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:44 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [UUC] One more oil pressure question >> >> >> So one more question if you guys would and then I will leave this >> one alone. >> As i have currently posted, I just installed a VDO oil pressure gauge. >> At >> hot idle the gauge reads about 10psi. I am ok with this as my research >> and Gary's reply have indicated that this is around normal (right?). At >> idle when the motor is cold, it is around 30psi. The concern I have is >> at >> full load the pressure does not exceed 30psi. I have an ETA motor so I >> figure that my pressure reading will be lower than say the B25 in >> comparison. Does 30 psi seem normal for a motor that only revs up to >> 4500 >> RPM? I have a small oil leak (well relatively small) so I have taken >> this >> into consideration when I have contemplated this issue. I figure that >> the >> pressure should be atleast 40psi under a full load or up to 4000 RPM's, >> which would supply adequate pressure unless my motor is beginning to >> wear >> or my oil leak is worse then I think or one of the other causes of low >> oil >> pressure (I know there are a hand full). The Bentley specifies 55-80 >> psi >> for full load with the six cyl. motors. It does not specify which motor >> so that still does not answer my question. >> Any info would be greatly appreciated. >> Ryan- > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:50:27 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: One more oil pressure question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ok I give up. How will a compression test help diagnose an oil pressure problem? I'm guessing it's either the pump is tired or you've got a bearing problem or if you have a pressure relief valve it's not working correctly. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan Simmons Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ryan Simmons; [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] One more oil pressure question Thanks Rich. I did recently put 20/50 in because we have had relatively hot weather here in Oregon (80's and 90's), but it has been consistently in the 60's and 70's. Would switching back to the 10/40 help with some of this issue? i assume the gauge reading is correct since I followed the instructions and the gauge and sender are specific to my motor. I suppose I will do a compression check this weekend. The car runs great, and there isn't any excessive noise coming from the engine bay. The motor is still relatively quiet although it does have around 220,000 miles, which is not very much if you ask me. Thanks again, Ryan- No, 30 psi at higher rpms is too low, it should be approaching 60 psi or > greater if the oil pump is working properly and the sensor and gauge are > accurate. It won't really exceed 60 psi due to the oil pressure relief > valve in my E36 M3. Also, my E36 M3 doesn't drop below about 18 psi when > at > idle and up to operating temps. > > For your '87 325e, BMW specs 0.5 bar (15 psi) at idle with engine at > operating temps and 4.0-6.0 bar (58-87 psi). I can't say for certain > whether the E30 has a oil pressure relief valve or not. > > Regards, > > Rich > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan Simmons >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:44 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [UUC] One more oil pressure question >> >> >> So one more question if you guys would and then I will leave this >> one alone. >> As i have currently posted, I just installed a VDO oil pressure gauge. >> At >> hot idle the gauge reads about 10psi. I am ok with this as my research >> and Gary's reply have indicated that this is around normal (right?). At >> idle when the motor is cold, it is around 30psi. The concern I have is >> at >> full load the pressure does not exceed 30psi. I have an ETA motor so I >> figure that my pressure reading will be lower than say the B25 in >> comparison. Does 30 psi seem normal for a motor that only revs up to >> 4500 >> RPM? I have a small oil leak (well relatively small) so I have taken >> this >> into consideration when I have contemplated this issue. I figure that >> the >> pressure should be atleast 40psi under a full load or up to 4000 RPM's, >> which would supply adequate pressure unless my motor is beginning to >> wear >> or my oil leak is worse then I think or one of the other causes of low >> oil >> pressure (I know there are a hand full). The Bentley specifies 55-80 >> psi >> for full load with the six cyl. motors. It does not specify which motor >> so that still does not answer my question. >> Any info would be greatly appreciated. >> Ryan- > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ryan Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: One more oil pressure question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Rich Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For your '87 325e, BMW specs 0.5 bar (15 psi) at idle with engine at > operating temps and 4.0-6.0 bar (58-87 psi). I can't say for certain > whether the E30 has a oil pressure relief valve or not. FWIW my E30 325is idles at about 17 psi once it's warm and has about 58-60ish psi on the highway. The motor has over 250,000 miles on it (the odo quit the other day) but it has an oil pump that is less than 2 years old. Carlos 98 M3 E30 325is (getting a fresher engine soon) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? 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