The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 874 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Replacing E36 ignition cylinder Re: Replacing E36 ignition cylinder Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Re: Warped rotors e36 Need OBD1 Code reader in FL Re: wheel cleaner <E36> what's it all mean Re: <E36> what's it all mean Re: <E36> what's it all mean Re: <E36> what's it all mean Cheap camber for E46 M3?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:34:56 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: uuc Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Replacing E36 ignition cylinder Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, although it also has a handle so you can rotate it once inserted. Practice on your new one before trying to remove the old one. This is on of those jobs that can be 30 seconds or 45 agonizing minutes. If your current cylinder is permanently freewheeling, you can't get it out with the tool, you'll need to buy the steering lock assembly and replace both. Brett Anderson KMS-Koala Motorsport www.bmwdiffs.com 9988 Kinsman Rd Novelty, OH 44072 (Near Cleveland) Dave Thomas wrote: > I just ordered a new ignition lock cylinder for our '95 M3 and have a > question about the tool used to remove it. It looks like a stiff wire > with a slight bend on the end...is that all it is? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:09:40 -0600 From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Replacing E36 ignition cylinder Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think I was in the "45 agonizing minutes" camp. Brett is right; practice on the new one. It is crucial to get the key to the proper position. You also need a really stiff piece of wire; a paper clip won't work :-) Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KMS- Brett Anderson Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:35 PM To: uuc Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] Replacing E36 ignition cylinder Yes, although it also has a handle so you can rotate it once inserted. Practice on your new one before trying to remove the old one. This is on of those jobs that can be 30 seconds or 45 agonizing minutes. If your current cylinder is permanently freewheeling, you can't get it out with the tool, you'll need to buy the steering lock assembly and replace both. Brett Anderson KMS-Koala Motorsport www.bmwdiffs.com 9988 Kinsman Rd Novelty, OH 44072 (Near Cleveland) Dave Thomas wrote: > I just ordered a new ignition lock cylinder for our '95 M3 and have a > question about the tool used to remove it. It looks like a stiff wire > with a slight bend on the end...is that all it is? Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. 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If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:46:17 -0600 From: "Dave Swingle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'll have to second that - I have a set of the Akebono/Satisfied on my 99M3 that I got from Rob to try about a year ago - perfect street pads IMO, no dust, no noise, no deposits. I have the PBRs on my wife's E39 and while they are clean and work OK (it's probably not driven hard enough to overheat and deposit) they squeak like banshees and I'll bet they are not lasting as long. Dave Swingle ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 3:56 PM Subject: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:12:05 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Warped rotors e36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You're probably not warping the rotors at all... my money is on melted pad deposit. If you're feeling a shimmy that seems like warped rotors with a modern BMW, 99.9% of the time it's melted pad deposit. The PBR pads are your problem. You need a pad with a higher heat range. For street use, I would recommend the Akebono Ceramic or Hawk Performance Ceramic. You won't get pad deposit from either of these, and as a side-benefit they have very low dust. New pads should remove the deposit, so you don't even need new rotors right away. A couple of days and your shimmy should be gone. - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:09:58 -0800 From: Dave Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave Swingle wrote: >I'll have to second that - I have a set of the Akebono/Satisfied on my 99M3 >that I got from Rob to try about a year ago - perfect street pads IMO, no >dust, no noise, no deposits. > I'll third that. And I would also like to thank "Green Stuffs" for teaching me all about how bad a brake pad can leave deposits and just suck in general.... ;-) I have a set of Akebono Ceramics on my E30 and they are by a far margin the best street pads I have used on it. Great pads. Damn near zero dust with good cold bite that just gets better when they get hot. Gonna get a set for the E36 M3 pretty soon....the OEM pads a just dust city.... I had the Axxis Ultimate Ceramics on the E30 before the Akebono's and they were not as good. Similar in feel but they would squeal a bit and made quite a lot of dust. About 4-5 times more than the Akebonos. I consider the Ultimates a good street pad...but the Akebono's are better IMO. BTW: Anyone ever use the official Porsche wheel cleaner? Got some free from Pelican Parts and it worked so well that I bought a big bottle of it. Cleans the heck out of the wheels but wont eat the finish, the instructions say you can leave it on for 30 minutes. Give some a try. Its not cheap but it really works well. 1000ml runs $21.50. I had a 100ml bottle as a sample and it was enough for two cleanings of all four wheels. Dave T. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:18:15 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dave Swingle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This pad info is interesting. My wife's 525iT consumed its original pads and rotors in about 30,000 dusty miles (22,000 by the PO). The replacement PBR Deluxe pads went 80,000 and the rotors (Balo?) are still good. Beautifully low dust but very squeaky until I bought brake pad shims from Pep Boys and applied them. I just installed Akebono Pro-Act pads and am expecting the same low dust performance. They came with very nicely made pad shims. Gary Derian > I'll have to second that - I have a set of the Akebono/Satisfied on my > 99M3 > that I got from Rob to try about a year ago - perfect street pads IMO, no > dust, no noise, no deposits. I have the PBRs on my wife's E39 and while > they > are clean and work OK (it's probably not driven hard enough to overheat > and > deposit) they squeak like banshees and I'll bet they are not lasting as > long. > > Dave Swingle > > You're probably not warping the rotors at all... my money is on melted pad > deposit. If you're feeling a shimmy that seems like warped rotors with a > modern BMW, 99.9% of the time it's melted pad deposit. > > The PBR pads are your problem. > > You need a pad with a higher heat range. For street use, I would > recommend > the Akebono Ceramic or Hawk Performance Ceramic. You won't get pad > deposit > from either of these, and as a side-benefit they have very low dust. > > New pads should remove the deposit, so you don't even need new rotors > right > away. A couple of days and your shimmy should be gone. > > - Rob > .com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:23:37 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm going to be swapping on the snow tires shortly and will do a brake inspection at that time. She's run the car probably 9000 miles since installation so I should be able to get an idea of the wear characteristics. My beef with the PBRs is that they didn't come with any shims so I re-used the old ones. They are not squeaking now that its cold out here, but if it comes back I'll get some shims. BTW - the front brakes on the (2002) 530 are the same as the 540, bigger than those used on the 525/528. I would not be surprised if the tourings use the bigger brakes though. The Akebonos are slightly dirtier than the PBRs, but if you wash the car weekly/biweekly you'll never notice it. Dave S Original Message: ----------------- From: Gary Derian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:18:15 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 This pad info is interesting. My wife's 525iT consumed its original pads and rotors in about 30,000 dusty miles (22,000 by the PO). The replacement PBR Deluxe pads went 80,000 and the rotors (Balo?) are still good. Beautifully low dust but very squeaky until I bought brake pad shims from Pep Boys and applied them. I just installed Akebono Pro-Act pads and am expecting the same low dust performance. They came with very nicely made pad shims. Gary Derian > I'll have to second that - I have a set of the Akebono/Satisfied on my > 99M3 > that I got from Rob to try about a year ago - perfect street pads IMO, no > dust, no noise, no deposits. I have the PBRs on my wife's E39 and while > they > are clean and work OK (it's probably not driven hard enough to overheat > and > deposit) they squeak like banshees and I'll bet they are not lasting as > long. > > Dave Swingle -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:35:42 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] Warped rotors e36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I hope they're not too much dustier. The car has E38 basketweave wheels which are a major pain to clean. With the PBRs the dust was invisible on the wheels. Gary Derian The Akebonos are slightly dirtier than the PBRs, but if you wash the car weekly/biweekly you'll never notice it. Dave S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:21:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Warped rotors e36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To reduce pad deposit, I just take my foot off the brake when I am at a stop, or when I have braked hard and came to a stop. That way you are not transfering material to the rotor. Deposits from the pads are much more common with the cheaper PBR pads or something similar in quality. Ryan- > I keep warping my rotors just on street use and need > to replace them again (3rd set). I do commute to work > so they do see lots of stop and go but nothing out of > the ordinary. I'm using factory rotors with PBR pads. > I'm thinking of going with slotted or cross drilled > rotors next to help avoid warping. Any comments as to > which would help prevent warping best? TIA! > > Manuel Paredes > 95 325i > L.A. BMWCCA > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:01:22 -0500 From: Kevin Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Need OBD1 Code reader in FL Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone in the Orlando/Daytona Beach area of FL? I'm down here on vacation and the E36 just reset the CEL. I want to confirm that it's just the stupid emissions air pump again (even though I replaced it on Friday) before I go to drive back to DC. Thanks Kevin '97 328is, 900 miles from my Peake R5 in Deland FL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:29:30 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: wheel cleaner Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I get great results with the Orange cleaner that you get in jugs at Home Depot. It provides similar results to Simple Green without those "non-toxic" toxic fumes that Simple Green has. The stuff also cleans the hell out of my Wolf cooktop. Marc Plante 1997 E36 M3/4 67k Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:52:52 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: <E36> what's it all mean Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've seen the designation E36/5 applied to 318's. What does the 5 designate? -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:01:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> what's it all mean Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tue, November 22, 2005 10:52 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > I've seen the designation E36/5 applied to 318's. What does the 5 > designate? I believe that is is a "submodel" designation, in this case denoting the 318ti. See: http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/e_code.shtml for one "decoder ring" example. Cheers, Jim Bassett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:48:34 -0800 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> what's it all mean Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:52 AM 11/22/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a sub-designation for different body variants. E36/5 = ti E36/7 = Z3 roadster E36/8 = Z3 coupe E46/3 = wagon I don't think the number holds any particular significance, since on the E46, for example, the sedan was the first body introduced, but it's E46/4. I believe BMW has quit using this, and has gone to separate Entwicklung codes for each bodystyle: E65 7er SWB E66 7er LWB E60 5er E61 5er wagon >I've seen the designation E36/5 applied to 318's. What does the 5 >designate? > >-Kevin > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only > for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have > been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the > intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose > the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the > sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying > to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of > it. Thank you. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:39:25 -0800 From: "Bob Sutterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E36> what's it all mean Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In days of yore, the E24 designation carried through a radical chassis change, from E12-like to E28-like. In the middle times, the E36 designation had sub-designations like E36/5 for the Compact (ti), E36/7 for Z3 roadsters, and E36/8 for Z3 coupes. I don't know the sub-designations for E36 cabrio, sedan, and coupe. To be even more specific, the ///M Roadster is "E36/7S" and the ///M Coupe is "E36/8S" though there's no distinction for S52 vs. S54. AFAIK there's no "S" suffix distinction for E36 ///M3 coupes, sedans, and cabrios. Lately, they've created complete new E-code designations for seemingly minor chassis variants, like E65 for normal wheelbase Sevens and E66 for long Sevens. We're told E90 covers only the Three sedan, and there will be other E-codes for coupe, cabrio, Touring, and Compact. I wouldn't be surprised if the ///M variants had their own E codes too. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:37:55 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Cheap camber for E46 M3? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruppe, Is there some trick to increase negative camber up front on an E46 M3? Rotating the hats, shimming the struts, anything like the E36 tricks? Carlos. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
