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  e36 starting in gear
  Re: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
  Re: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
  <E30> Stroked M20
  Re: 1995 M3 valve cover color?

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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:32:56 -0500
From: Ben Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 1995 M3 valve cover color?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

the gold color is probably the silver painted cover + original cosmoline
protectant (not fully removed as part of the pre-delivery process at the
dealer) or the potential oil residue, tho the oil seems unlikely to be
_that_ thick.

there's all sorts of useful ways to remove the cosmoline if that's what
it is, it's finally flaking off on the S38 in my M5 after 203k miles, tho
that might be because the PO didn't clean the motor much.


Ben


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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:09:26 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I picked up a '93 525iA for my wife yesterday (Kaschmirbeige metallic,
Parchment leather, 107K miles).  I've noticed a few issues and would
appreciate any input if you've BTDT.

1.  The cruise control works (set, accel, decel), but after I hit the
brakes, it would not Resume.  Hopefully this is not some flaky/expensive
cruise control computer.

2.  I've managed to pre-set my stations on the FM band.  When it is on AM,
the indicator says "AM".  But when it is on FM, it says FM2.  I can't find
any other FM bands.  Is there an FM1 or other FMs?  How do I get to them?
If there are no others, why does it say FM2?  I could just read the owner's
manual, but I'm lazy and yet inquisitive.

3.  When we test-drove the car last Saturday, it had about a half a tank.
When I picked it up yesterday, it had a half a tank, and I doubt any gas
was added.  I fiddled with the OBC and it was showing something like a 260
mile range.  On the trip home the OBC (after re-setting) said it was
getting 30+ MPG at a steady 70 (indicated) MPH.  But  halfway home I got
off the freeway to avoid a traffic jam.  Took a side trip to Double 02
Salvage for the few things I know we need.  Another side trip to a friend's
house to show him the car.  And a drive home through the canyons.  By the
time I got home, the average MPG was down to about 19-ish.  OBC said the
range was still around 240 miles, and the gas gauge still shows half a
tank.  I'm sure the tank is not as large as the Durango's (which we just
sold, 25 gallons), so I'm having trouble accepting that we've put probably
50 miles on this car and we still have half a tank.  Are sticky senders a
problem on these cars?

I'll eventually be buying an E34 Bentley manual and an ETM for the car, so
I'll be able to research this kind of stuff on my own.  But do let me know
if you have either book for sale.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA
1993 525iA
1991 325iA
1990325i



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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:46:31 -0600
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Congratulations on the purchase.  We have a '93 525iT and love it.

1.  I've had a similar problem on my '87 325, but I don't know if 
there's any similarity at all.  Nonetheless, on the 325, the brake 
switch and cruise cut-out switch are both on a piece of metal (by the 
pedals) that gets out of alignment, resulting in behavior like you're 
describing.

2.  Yes, indeed, there is an FM and FM2.  It's accessed by hitting the 
'mode' button, I think.  Don't have the '93 w/me today or I'd go out and 
look.  I stumbled on this.

3.  I am always baffled about the mpg that others get.  We keep track of 
both cars in a small book, actually writing things down, not just 
watching the guage.  Only once did we get 30mpg w/the '93, and b/c it 
was an exception, I'm thinking it was inaccurate.

At 70mph, our guage will read around 25mpg.

I'd fill it up and start watching it under your driving habits.

Enjoy!

Clarence
West Bend, WI



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I picked up a '93 525iA for my wife yesterday (Kaschmirbeige metallic,
> Parchment leather, 107K miles).  I've noticed a few issues and would
> appreciate any input if you've BTDT.
> 
> 1.  The cruise control works (set, accel, decel), but after I hit the
> brakes, it would not Resume.  Hopefully this is not some flaky/expensive
> cruise control computer.
> 
> 2.  I've managed to pre-set my stations on the FM band.  When it is on AM,
> the indicator says "AM".  But when it is on FM, it says FM2.  I can't find
> any other FM bands.  Is there an FM1 or other FMs?  How do I get to them?
> If there are no others, why does it say FM2?  I could just read the owner's
> manual, but I'm lazy and yet inquisitive.
> 
> 3.  When we test-drove the car last Saturday, it had about a half a tank.
> When I picked it up yesterday, it had a half a tank, and I doubt any gas
> was added.  I fiddled with the OBC and it was showing something like a 260
> mile range.  On the trip home the OBC (after re-setting) said it was
> getting 30+ MPG at a steady 70 (indicated) MPH.  But  halfway home I got
> off the freeway to avoid a traffic jam.  Took a side trip to Double 02
> Salvage for the few things I know we need.  Another side trip to a friend's
> house to show him the car.  And a drive home through the canyons.  By the
> time I got home, the average MPG was down to about 19-ish.  OBC said the
> range was still around 240 miles, and the gas gauge still shows half a
> tank.  I'm sure the tank is not as large as the Durango's (which we just
> sold, 25 gallons), so I'm having trouble accepting that we've put probably
> 50 miles on this car and we still have half a tank.  Are sticky senders a
> problem on these cars?
> 
> I'll eventually be buying an E34 Bentley manual and an ETM for the car, so
> I'll be able to research this kind of stuff on my own.  But do let me know
> if you have either book for sale.
> 
> Scott Miller
> GGC BMW CCA
> 1993 525iA
> 1991 325iA
> 1990325i
> 
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:13:50 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hmmmz, I played with Mode yesterday.  Like our E30, it cycles through bass,
trebble, balance and fader.  Didn't see a way to get it to change FM to
FM2.  Guess I'll have to RTFM.

Thanks,

Scott



                                                                           
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Congratulations on the purchase.  We have a '93 525iT and love it.

<snip>
>2.  Yes, indeed, there is an FM and FM2.  It's accessed by hitting the
>'mode' button, I think.  Don't have the '93 w/me today or I'd go out and
>look.  I stumbled on this.
<snip>
>Enjoy!
>
>Clarence
>West Bend, WI





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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:17:49 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
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try hitting FM multiple times

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Hmmmz, I played with Mode yesterday.  Like our E30, it cycles through bass,
trebble, balance and fader.  Didn't see a way to get it to change FM to
FM2.  Guess I'll have to RTFM.

Thanks,

Scott



                                                                           
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Congratulations on the purchase.  We have a '93 525iT and love it.

<snip>
>2.  Yes, indeed, there is an FM and FM2.  It's accessed by hitting the
>'mode' button, I think.  Don't have the '93 w/me today or I'd go out and
>look.  I stumbled on this.
<snip>
>Enjoy!
>
>Clarence
>West Bend, WI




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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:56:10 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Congratulations on the new arrival.
Barry
Answers below:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I picked up a '93 525iA for my wife yesterday (Kaschmirbeige metallic,
>Parchment leather, 107K miles).  I've noticed a few issues and would
>appreciate any input if you've BTDT.1.  The cruise control works (set, accel, 
>decel), but after I hit the brakes, it would not Resume.  Hopefully this is 
>not some flaky/expensive cruise control computer.
>  
>
The switch the clutch and brake pedals activate could be going bad.  
Maybe its slighty out of position from wear over time.  Test with an 
ohmmeter.  Inexpensive switch, requires dropping the underdash panel to 
replace.  Easily r&r'ed by nimble fingers.

>2.  I've managed to pre-set my stations on the FM band.  When it is on AM,
>the indicator says "AM".  But when it is on FM, it says FM2......
>  
>
Press FM again and you will see FMA, FM1, FM2

>3.  When we test-drove the car last Saturday, it had about a half a tank.
>When I picked it up yesterday, it had a half a tank, and I doubt any gas
>was added.....  Are sticky senders a
>problem on these cars?
>  
>
     Open the hidden OBC codes to the display amount of liters in the 
tank to see if that number steadily decreases.  If so, sticky gauge in 
the dash.  If not, look further into it being a sticky sender in the tank.

>Scott Miller
>GGC BMW CCA
>1993 525iA
>1991 325iA
>1990 325i
>

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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:18:23 -0800
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Subject: Re: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
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>Congratulations on the new arrival.
>Barry
>Answers below:
>
>>2.  I've managed to pre-set my stations on the FM band.  When it is on
AM,
>>the indicator says "AM".  But when it is on FM, it says FM2......
>>
>>
>Press FM again and you will see FMA, FM1, FM2

Doesn't have an FM button, it has a Band button.  Pressing Band gets either
AM or FM2.  Even tried holding down the Band button when I selected FM to
see if it would cycle to FM1 after a few seconds.  Didn't work.

>     Open the hidden OBC codes to the display amount of liters in the
>tank to see if that number steadily decreases.  If so, sticky gauge in
>the dash.  If not, look further into it being a sticky sender in the tank.

Um, how do I "open the hidden codes"?  Is there a link to a web site that
describes this?  Hmmz, maybe I should join an E34 board.  Or RTFM.

Thanks

Scott




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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:29:11 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, January 11, 2006 2:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Um, how do I "open the hidden codes"?  Is there a link to a web site that
> describes this?  Hmmz, maybe I should join an E34 board.  Or RTFM.

One possibility to try is:
http://www.unofficialbmw.com/repair_faqs/obc.html

(And, the "hidden codes" won't be in TFM <g> - that's why they are called
"hidden".)

Oh, and regarding the fuel gauge issue, does the gauge read "full" when
you fill it up? There is an issue with the E36 pumps/senders, where they
will wear out and not read correctly. Just a thought, since I don't know
how many components are shared between E34s and E36s.

Jim Bassett


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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:55:59 -0800 (PST)
From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: e36 starting in gear
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I've always owned a manual, and I've never had a
problem remembering to step on the clutch prior to
starting the car.  After purchasing my 95 M3, I wanted
to test it to see if it would start in gear, and
unfortunately it does.  Since then, I've accidentally
started it without stepping on the clutch a couple
times (odd, because none of my previous cars ever did
start when in gear, and I never accidentally tried
to... go figure).

Any advice on what needs to be replaced?  

Thanks,

Paul


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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:19:28 -0600
From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: <E34> Cruise Control, Radio, Fuel Gauge
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If it is like my E36, just press the FM button again.

Malcolm

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Hmmmz, I played with Mode yesterday.  Like our E30, it cycles through
bass,
trebble, balance and fader.  Didn't see a way to get it to change FM to
FM2.  Guess I'll have to RTFM.

Thanks,

Scott



 

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Congratulations on the purchase.  We have a '93 525iT and love it.

<snip>
>2.  Yes, indeed, there is an FM and FM2.  It's accessed by hitting the
>'mode' button, I think.  Don't have the '93 w/me today or I'd go out
and
>look.  I stumbled on this.
<snip>
>Enjoy!
>
>Clarence
>West Bend, WI




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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:26:56 -0800
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Thanks, will try.

Scott


                                                                           
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>Oh, OK. Try the "Prog" button for change FM2 to FM1 then.
>
>Malcolm




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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:18:24 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: <E30> Stroked M20
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


When a M20 motor is stroked to say 2.9 or 3.0L, does the rod stay the same
as stock? How about the pistons? If so, doesn't this create problems at the
top (piston above deck) and bottom of the stroke (piston too far out of
lower bore)?

-Kevin





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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:22:33 -0800
From: Dave Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 1995 M3 valve cover color?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 09:08 -0500, Marc Plante wrote:
> The plastic cover itself is black.  Everything under that is cast iron, which 
> tends to be silver.  Perhaps someone had a series of leaky valve cover 
> gaskets that they didn't fix quickly.  Oil running over a hot block will tend 
> to turn a golden brown color as it burns.  Is the block tacky/sticky at all?  
> might just be a lot of sludge.
> 
> You can try cleaning the area with a spray down of simple green followed by a 
> careful rinse to see if it cleans off.  Watch out for the airbag sensor 
> switches (I usually put baggies on them) and be judicious about spraying 
> under the hood in general.  a clean engine compartment helps you to spot 
> fluid leaks sooner rather than later.
> 
> Marc Plante
> 1997 E36 M3/4 68k
> 2005 Child (learning to cope with the car)
> Vienna, VA

What? Dirty engine and engine compartment? Not on my cars!

Thanks to all that responded. I never thought that gold color could have
been from the cosmoline...never seen it turn quite that gold. You can
see it a little bit in this photo:

http://tinyurl.com/byxpe

The paint has come off the top area in the front but you can still see
the color of the paint around the edges a bit in the photo.

Dave T.



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