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  <misc> TSBs
  Re: <misc> TSBs
  Re: <misc> TSBs
  Re: <misc> TSBs
  <E53> tail and turn signal lamp sockets
  <E53> tail and turn signal lamp sockets
  Re: <E53> tail and turn signal lamp sockets
  E30 - Failed Emissions
  Re: E30 - Failed Emissions
  Re: E30 - Failed Emissions
  Re: 1992 325is: track car/parts car ???

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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:42:29 -0600 (CST)
From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: <misc> TSBs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


(catching up on old digests today...)

An earlier posting about notchy gas pedal feel in E46 drive-by-wire setups got
me to looking for a TSB on my wife's X5... only to find that Alldata "does not
support Honda, Acura, and BMW at the request of the manufacture".  Well isn't
that nice.  There must be someplace where I can find this... anybody?

- Kevin Jay
  '96 328is, red/tan, 95K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too
  '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 39K, bone stock


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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:25:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <misc> TSBs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>From Brett A. less than 2 weeks ago:
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www.bmwtechinfo.com for real information.

www.alldata.com for bullshit information

Brett Anderson
KMS
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-tammer

--- "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> An earlier posting about notchy gas pedal feel in E46
> drive-by-wire setups got
> me to looking for a TSB on my wife's X5... only to find
> that Alldata "does not
> support Honda, Acura, and BMW at the request of the
> manufacture".  Well isn't
> that nice.  There must be someplace where I can find
> this... anybody?


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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:08:48 -0800
From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <misc> TSBs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Good thing I have a Windows PC at work, otherwise I wouldn't be able  
to use the ETK, or the bmwtechinfo.com website.  BMW needs to  
consider using technology that is not OS specific (Java or PDF for  
example).  Sure, one could argue that most of the world uses Windows,  
but the Mac and Linux market have quickly become popular.  There are  
even some governments that have banned the use of Windows because of  
all the security issues they've had (I can't even begin to tell you  
about the huge issue I had trying to get the OK to have a Windows box  
on my network at work).  Sorry for ranting.


Sincerely,

Mark Gold
Sacramento Chapter BMWCCA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Feb 11, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Tammer Farid wrote:
> From Brett A. less than 2 weeks ago:
> ------------------
> www.bmwtechinfo.com for real information.
>
> www.alldata.com for bullshit information
>
> Brett Anderson
> KMS
> ------------------
> -tammer
>
> --- "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> An earlier posting about notchy gas pedal feel in E46
>> drive-by-wire setups got
>> me to looking for a TSB on my wife's X5... only to find
>> that Alldata "does not
>> support Honda, Acura, and BMW at the request of the
>> manufacture".  Well isn't
>> that nice.  There must be someplace where I can find
>> this... anybody?
>
>
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:07:43 -0500
From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <misc> TSBs
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



> -----Original Message-----
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Gold
> 
> Good thing I have a Windows PC at work, otherwise I wouldn't be able
> to use the ETK, or the bmwtechinfo.com website.  BMW needs to
> consider using technology that is not OS specific (Java or PDF for
> example

Mark,

No offense but I don’t think BMW cares that you don’t have a windows pc and
I doubt they care about anyone using a MAC.   They can dictate what the
dealer system is based on and could care less about the end user enthusiast.
They did not build the ETK for anyone beyond the dealer network and probably
would prefer it to stay at the dealer level.  Do they even sell the ETK?  I
know the versions I have/had were copied from dealer versions.   



MIke
 

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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:21:39 -0600 (CST)
From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E53> tail and turn signal lamp sockets
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


My wife's '02 X5 has started to eat turn and tail light lamp sockets.  Three
of them now.  Contacts corrode, resulting in some arching and melting of
plastic, etc... until the lamp stops working.  It's an easy fix, but it sure
seems strange this has happened on three bulbs on this car in the last two
months.  I've never seen this on any vehicle, much less three times.  Any
similar experiences or comments?

- Kevin Jay
  '96 328is, red/tan, 95K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too
  '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 39K, bone stock, goofy problems with bulbs


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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:41:10 -0500
From: Whit Lowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: <E53> tail and turn signal lamp sockets
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Actually, it's a known problem and fairly common on E38s, as well. 
The company can't seem to shake the ghost of the leaking E30 tail
light :)

Pull the assembly and replace or reseal the gasket.  The part is less
than $10 from a dealer.

best, whit

On 2/11/06, Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My wife's '02 X5 has started to eat turn and tail light lamp sockets.  Three
> of them now.  Contacts corrode, resulting in some arching and melting of
> plastic, etc... until the lamp stops working.  It's an easy fix, but it sure
> seems strange this has happened on three bulbs on this car in the last two
> months.  I've never seen this on any vehicle, much less three times.  Any
> similar experiences or comments?
>
> - Kevin Jay
>   '96 328is, red/tan, 95K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too
>   '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 39K, bone stock, goofy problems with bulbs
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>


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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:55:48 -0800 (PST)
From: "Kazuto Okayasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E53> tail and turn signal lamp sockets
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>
> My wife's '02 X5 has started to eat turn and tail light lamp sockets.
> Three
> of them now.  Contacts corrode, resulting in some arching and melting of
> plastic, etc... until the lamp stops working.  It's an easy fix, but it
> sure
> seems strange this has happened on three bulbs on this car in the last two
> months.  I've never seen this on any vehicle, much less three times.  Any
> similar experiences or comments?
>

E46 front corner lights have the same problem.  It's not moisture related
like on taillights of certain older models.  I think the contact material
has a high resistance or something, and in conbination with the chopped DC
that's used to run the lights dimmed (they're not dual-filament bulbs in
this location), it seems to pit the contact with the bulb and create high
temperatures.  I've had to polish the contact, put a good contact enhancer
on it, and re-shape the lead ball on the bottom of the bulb to keep this
from happening constantly.

> - Kevin Jay
>   '96 328is, red/tan, 95K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too
>   '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 39K, bone stock, goofy problems with bulbs
>
-- 
Kazuto Okayasu
Administrative Computing Services
University of California, Irvine


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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:33:46 -0800
From: "scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: E30 - Failed Emissions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

I have a 1990 325is which failed emissions two weeks ago. It's running rich, 
with double the 
amount of legal hydrocarbon output. I have owned the car for six years, added 
66k miles, and have 
never replaced the O2 sensor. I checked the reciepts from the previos owner and 
none show an O2 
sensor, but I can't trust that he kept ALL the receipts.

Running the accelerator stomp test I'm getting error code 1222.

So today I ran the O2 sensor tests in the Bentley manual. I got the engine 
fully warm with a ten 
minute drive around town, then parked it. With the ignition off, the multimeter 
showed 0.029-0.031 
VDC. With the car at idle it did fluctuate slightly but I can't be certain 
whether it's 
fluctuating between a correct range, since the Bentley doesnt list any proper 
voltage range.

I checked the AFM for good flap movement and it seems solid.

Can anyone give input or advice? I know that the O2 sensor is a replacement 
item, I think at 90k 
mile intervals. I need to get tabs for the car and I can't do that until I pass 
emissions test. 
Thanks for any help you guys can give.

- Scott Catlin

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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:29:33 -0600
From: "John Bunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: E30 - Failed Emissions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 > I have a 1990 325is which failed emissions two weeks ago. It's running rich, 
 > with double the
> amount of legal hydrocarbon output. I have owned the car for six years, added 
> 66k miles, and have never replaced the O2 sensor. I 
> checked the reciepts from the previos owner and none show an O2 sensor, but I 
> can't trust that he kept ALL the receipts.

The o2 sensor is just one of the things that can cause overrich running.   It's 
been a while since I had an M20, so I might be off 
on
some of this.    But - since you have a multimeter, you might try disconnecting 
the AFM (car doesn't need to be running) and
check that as you move the flap, you get a nice clean variable resistance 
across the appropriate pins (easy to figure out which
ones they are).   I had one with a bad AFM and the outputs glitched like crazy 
as the flap moved, causing all sorts of mayhem with
the mixture (clouds of black smoke, backfiring even).    A vacuum leak is 
another  possibility - spraying carb cleaner around the
intake/throttle body, and any connecting hoses/sensors.    Bad throttle 
position switch?   Easy to verify it is operating correctly.
Do you have Bentley?   The other thing to check is the engine temp sensor.   
Assuming all else is well (no one has tweaked the
idle mixture, etc) any of the above can fool the ECU into running rich.    HTH.

-John 



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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:34:15 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (scott)
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E30 - Failed Emissions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>From scott
>
>Hi,
>

Hi there! Given I went through the emissions bru-ha-ha on my E30 back in
October I will give what advice I can based on my experience. In my case,
the failure was due to high NOx, but I tested just about everything along
the way.

>I have a 1990 325is which failed emissions two weeks ago. It's running rich, 
>with double the 
>amount of legal hydrocarbon output. I have owned the car for six years, added 
>66k miles, and have 
>never replaced the O2 sensor. I checked the reciepts from the previos owner 
>and none show an O2 
>sensor, but I can't trust that he kept ALL the receipts.

Well, based on the usual assumptions about an O2 sensor, odds are that is
it... but shotgun parts replacement is not really a good way to go here.
These things can be tested.

>Running the accelerator stomp test I'm getting error code 1222.

Well, that claims to be a fault with "Lambda Control 1". In other words, O2
sensor.

>So today I ran the O2 sensor tests in the Bentley manual. I got the engine 
>fully warm with a ten 
>minute drive around town, then parked it. With the ignition off, the 
>multimeter showed 0.029-0.031 
>VDC. With the car at idle it did fluctuate slightly but I can't be certain 
>whether it's 
>fluctuating between a correct range, since the Bentley doesnt list any proper 
>voltage range.

An O2 sensor is a small battery or fuel cell. It uses unburnt hydrocarbons
and air from outside the exhaust pipe as the fuel and oxidizer. The output
of the sensor will be no more than about 1 volt. A lean mixture in the 
exhaust pipe will give you a low voltage and a rich mix will give you a high 
voltage. The magic voltage the computer is looking for is 0.45V. Now, since
the computer that is running the engine is always adapting, you will not see
a nice steady voltage. If everything is working right, the output of the
sensor will swing from lean to rich and back again several times a second,
but it "averages" about 0.45V.

With the engine warmed up and running and the O2 sensor plugged into the
engine harness, read the output of the sensor. You should see the output
swinging from about 0.3 to about 0.7 or so. If you play with the throttle
you will see it really dance about, appearing to go rich when you open up
the throttle and then very lean when you let it close. If you are very fast
with the throttle these can appear reversed as you read the instant before
the fuel gets added to the engine or the time before the throttle switch
closes. In reality the mix goes lean right as you open the throttle, but 
then the computer gives the engine more fuel for acceleration and the O2 
sensor will read rich. Likewise, when the throttle closes, the computer cuts 
off all fuel until the RPM gets below 1500 RPM, so the O2 sensor will read 
lean. It will go back to its normal wavering as the engine RPM stabilizes. 
The other test is to introduce a vacuum leak while watching the sensor. 
Remove the oil fill cap. The O2 sensor should read very lean and largely 
stop wavering, holding at about 0.3V or so.

>I checked the AFM for good flap movement and it seems solid.

I suspect that a problem with the AFM would result in erratic mix issues
that would show up as a lack of power, surging, stalling, starting issues,
etc and not a consistent rich condition.

>Can anyone give input or advice? I know that the O2 sensor is a replacement 
>item, I think at 90k 
>mile intervals. I need to get tabs for the car and I can't do that until I 
>pass emissions test. 
>Thanks for any help you guys can give.

Well, if it is rich, it is either too much fuel or not enough air. Either
the computer is asking for too much fuel (bad O2 sensor, bad coolant
temperature sensor, bad AFM) or it is getting more than it asked for (clogged 
air filter, bad fuel pressure regulator, leaky injector). It is also
possible that there is a cylinder that is not igniting reliably, but odds
are you would have noticed that. The E30s are picky about their ignition
system. Mine would randomly trip the check engine light with the O2 sensor
fault. It turned out that a new cap, rotor, wires, and plugs fixed the
issue. Although annoying, it was random and the car passed emissions before
I fixed it and it wasn't noticeable while driving.

I would test the O2 sensor and see what it does.

I would suspect:

1) O2 sensor
2) coolant temperature sensor
3) the ignition system
4) AFM, FPR, or an injector
5) air filter

Good luck! I know emissions can be maddening, but you can get it figured
out.

-- Joe

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Joseph M. Krzeszewski                       Network Operations
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                            Worcester Polytechnic Institute

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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:53:59 -0600
From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Newman, Christopher'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 1992 325is: track car/parts car ???
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just bought a car EXACTLY like this one for EXACTLY the same thing. I got
lucky and paid $500 but I figure it's easily worth $1k. The vanos issue is
minor if converting to a track car. Besides a motor with 200k is probably
gonna need refreshing and vanos M50's a getting cheap.
E36's are great fun for track cars.

Remember the $500 or $1000 is probably one of the smaller investments you
are going to make in your "new" race car! ;-)

Have fun, stay safe.

Cheers, cya on the track (in my mirrors!)

Paul Garnier

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Newman, Christopher
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UUC] 1992 325is: track car/parts car ???


Hello.
Regarding a 1992 BMW 325is coupe.  Black on Black.  5 speed manual.
Approximately 200k miles.  
Engine runs ok but idles rough and stalls on occasion.  Paint is decent
but is starting to fade.
Could probably use new brakes and tires.  Heat, AC, sunroof, radio, and
passenger window don't work.  
Door panels are starting to fall off.  Headliner is stapled up in
places.  Drivers leather seat is ripped.

How much would you pay for this car ?
Would this be a good candidate to convert to track or autocross duty ?
The things that don't work would probably be ripped out anyway.  
Maybe it's more useful as a parts car ?
Anyone near Maryland looking for a car like this ?
  
The car isn't mine.  I'm asking for someone else who lives there and
wants to sell it.
Thank you for any comments.

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UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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