The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 130 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Smokin E30 Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(6 messages) On Oxygen sensors, gas caps, and throwing check engine lights... Re: On Oxygen sensors, gas caps, and throwing check engine lights... Re: On Oxygen sensors, gas caps, and throwing check engine lights... Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:23:55 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Smokin E30 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ryan, I'm no expert, but I do own E30s, so I thought I'd comment. Plus the UUC Digest's post count has been extremely low lately, might as well try to boost activity a bit. Is your vibration actually a vibration, or just a noise. If you feel the car shaking, it is not the loose exhaust hanger. Loose or missing exhaust hangers will result in all kinds of noises (rattles mostly) but will not cause the car to shake. At least that is my experience. Vibrations from the middle of the car are often due to a bad drive shaft center support bearing or bad U-joints. They could also be from the flex disc (between the transmission and the driveshaft). Neither the bad exhaust hanger nor the driveline vibrations (if that is the source) would cause the smoke. What color was the smoke? White-ish would indicate water vapor, which can indicate a blown head gasket or cracked head. Or it can just be natural condensation in the muffler, which means that nothing is actually wrong with the car. Blue-ish would be oil. Blue smoke on acceleration, especially under load and after the car is warmed up, would indicate weak rings. (Or if the blue smoke is only when the engine is cold but then goes away when warm, the rings could be marginal but still sealing once warm.) Blue smoke on deceleration, especially from high RPMs, would indicate bad valve guide seals, which, if you've never had head work done on your car, is most certainly a problem. Black smoke means the engine is running rich. If blue smoke, do compression and leak-down tests to get a better idea of the internal condition of your engine. So potentially, you're looking at three different problems. Which, for a 19 year old car with 220K miles, is not uncommon. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:33:48 -0700 (PDT) >From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Smokin E30 >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hey guys, >87 325e 220,000k >Well for about a month, I have had a heavy vibration at 2500 rpms in >second gear, coming from about the middle to the rear of the car. Upon >investigation, the middle exhaust mount, I guess the one near or by the >gas tank is hanging by a thread so I figure that is the problem. But also >this vibration seems to, very slightly, effect acceleration and it has >gotten worse over the last few days to the point where when I accelerate >hard, the car sounds like a lawn mower but very very faint. Now to me >this would seem like an exhaust leak, but here is the other part. When I >started it up this afternoon a little bit of smoke came out of the tail >pipe, and then when I gave it gas more smoke came out. Taking all of the >issues I have mentioned and the fact that they all have started in the >last month, are there any ideas that can be attributed to them. The >vibration is the hanger, the ticking like sound perhaps an exhaust leak, >but the smoke? The motor is very clean and it has always run smooth. I >add oil, but because of a leak at the pan that developed recently. Before >that it burned very little. I have replaced the o2 sensor recently. The >exhaust is stainless steal, but has many many miles, like over a 100,000. >The cat has many many miles too. So with that, any ideas? >Thanks in advance, >Ryan- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:07:19 -0400 From: "Mitchell, Philip S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(6 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul, You don't have to explain yourself to me. I did the same thing four years ago. I bought a 1997 740i that had 124k miles on it. I needed a car to haul my family around in in safety, as my previous bimmer gave it's life for my protecting me from a wayward Cadillac. I wanted one with some miles on it to get it down to my price range and I figured in order to have accumulated that many miles that quickly it must have done a lot of them on the highway. It was also new enough to get past the Nikasil problem motors, but the Sport versions were newer and cost (at least) twice as much. I've got 210k on it now with no major problems. You will need to replace the cats (2) before 150k, and the suspension will need to be rebuilt every 60k or so, more with the sport wheels and tires. A small price to pay for the worlds largest sportscar! I haven't had any trans problems with my car, but I try to take good car of it. Everything I know I have learned from Bimmer Magazine and the Seven group on the web, the best Internet group I have ever come in contact with. Phil Mitchell Wheaton, Maryland Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:41:02 -0500 From: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: <E38> 740i Sport Speculation Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, As my commute here in KC has grown more congested, I find myself just sitting in the car more and more. I love driving my E30 ragtop, but just sitting in traffic is getting old. I find my mind wandering back to my traveling salesman days when I lived in a couple of 735's. I think I may be ready to return to the 7 series and have grown very fond of the E38 740 Sports. They are only made in 99 and later, I think, so the nikasil issue is not one. Any particular issues with these cars? I will likely look for one around the 100kmile mark (because I am a cheap bahstahd). I assume the transmission would be the achilles heel. Anyone done a 6 speed conversion besides our illustrious list owner? Seems like the V8 shouldn't be as tough as the V12... Regards, Paul Craven 1993 325ic 1999 528iT Future mobile living room with sport package? ********** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:00:57 -0400 From: Matthew J Zekauskas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: On Oxygen sensors, gas caps, and throwing check engine lights... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Car: 1999 E46 328i, about 77k mi A few months ago (November) I got my first check engine light ever. It happened soon after I filled up the car, so even though as far as I can tell I tightened the gas cap properly (and didn't leave the key in while filling, etc), I attributed the CEL to an evap system mishap. The light went off about the third cycle after it came on. When I got home, I put on the Peake reader, and all it said was 0x98, which is 'Pre-cat oxy sensor disconnection, cyl 1-3". I threw on the Peake for grins a few months earlier, and it also had the 0x98. Since then it had gone through a New York State inspection and dealer service, so I didn't worry about it too much (ha). Is there some relevant code that the Peake would read out if in fact there was a gas cap issue? Would it go away after the third drive cycle w/o a problem? Last Friday, on the third trip of the day, the CEL went on (after a hard 3rd gear acceleration :). When I brought the car home, I plugged in my Peake reader, and it again said 0x98. This time, playing around, I cleared the codes with the Peake, did a drive, and saw both 0x98 and 0xE3 (which is 'oxy sensor adaptation limit, cyl 1-3'). Soooo... I probably have a bad sensor. And maybe a vacuum leak too, for good measure. Now that I think about it, I have had an occasional stumble under moderate acceleration, so the sensor probably has been bad/ intermittent for a while, although I don't understand why I had no CEL before. I've been in DC all week (stuck in the Crystal Gateway Marriott), without the car, so I haven't been able to do any additional diagnosis or try a fix. I thought I'd ask here before trying to attack it next week (or maybe getting Brett to do it for me, I have to drive NY->MI via Ohio mid next week). Does anyone have any additional insight before I start tearing things apart? If I do replace the sensor, is it better to replace more than just the failing one? Both pre-cat? All 4? --Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:38:53 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matthew J Zekauskas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: On Oxygen sensors, gas caps, and throwing check engine lights... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When an O2 sensor ages its output goes low. That is a false lean signal so the DME enriches the mixture. As long as it responds to changes in the fuel mix, the check engine light may not come on, so it isn't completely dead. If the output is low enough, the DME may not be able to enrich the mixture enough to raise the output voltage which sets the out of range error. Change both front sensors first and see what happens. Gary Derian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew J Zekauskas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:00 PM Subject: [UUC] On Oxygen sensors, gas caps, and throwing check engine lights... > Car: 1999 E46 328i, about 77k mi > > A few months ago (November) I got my first check engine light > ever. It happened soon after I filled up the car, so even > though as far as I can tell I tightened the gas cap properly > (and didn't leave the key in while filling, etc), I attributed > the CEL to an evap system mishap. The light went off about > the third cycle after it came on. When I got home, I put on > the Peake reader, and all it said was 0x98, which is > 'Pre-cat oxy sensor disconnection, cyl 1-3". I threw on > the Peake for grins a few months earlier, and it also had > the 0x98. Since then it had gone through a New York State > inspection and dealer service, so I didn't worry about it > too much (ha). > > Is there some relevant code that the Peake would read out > if in fact there was a gas cap issue? Would it go away > after the third drive cycle w/o a problem? > > Last Friday, on the third trip of the day, the CEL went on (after > a hard 3rd gear acceleration :). When I brought the car home, > I plugged in my Peake reader, and it again said 0x98. > > This time, playing around, I cleared the codes with the Peake, did > a drive, and saw both 0x98 and 0xE3 (which is 'oxy sensor > adaptation limit, cyl 1-3'). Soooo... I probably have a bad > sensor. And maybe a vacuum leak too, for good measure. > > Now that I think about it, I have had an occasional stumble > under moderate acceleration, so the sensor probably has been bad/ > intermittent for a while, although I don't understand why I had > no CEL before. > > I've been in DC all week (stuck in the Crystal Gateway Marriott), > without the car, so I haven't been able to do any additional > diagnosis or try a fix. I thought I'd ask here before trying > to attack it next week (or maybe getting Brett to do it for me, > I have to drive NY->MI via Ohio mid next week). > > Does anyone have any additional insight before I start tearing > things apart? If I do replace the sensor, is it better to > replace more than just the failing one? Both pre-cat? All 4? > > --Matt > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:15:38 -0700 From: "Hogg, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matthew J Zekauskas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: On Oxygen sensors, gas caps, and throwing check engine lights... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here's my feedback, for what it's worth, base don limited experience. I have a 1996 328iC with 105k miles on it. This car is OBD II and has 4 O2 sensors, two before and two after the cats. I had a stumble in hard acceleration at two points on the rpm scale. I never got a CEL that had anything to do with the stumble. I narrowed it down to potentially aging O2 sensors. I changed the two pre-cat sensors based on my understanding that the two after cat sensors are just there for emissions and to tell you if your cat is bad and not for any performance (please someone correct me if I'm wrong on that). I also changed both sensors since they are not that expensive and I was getting no CEL (so no clue which one might be bad). The result? Bingo - hesitation gone and (and it was a very noticeable and repeatable hesitation so I'm not imagining that it is gone) the whole rpm range "feels" cleaner and smoother. The lesson learned - O2 sensors can go "bad" and effect driving and performance without actually sending a CEL. I think BMW suggests they be changed regardless at about 80 - 100k, and based on my experience I would concur with that. Having said all that you may just want to check the connector on the engine side of things (easy to get to on my car at least) and see if something is loose or if a wire is worn thru. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew J Zekauskas Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:01 PM To: UUC Digest Subject: [UUC] On Oxygen sensors, gas caps, and throwing check engine lights... Car: 1999 E46 328i, about 77k mi A few months ago (November) I got my first check engine light ever. It happened soon after I filled up the car, so even though as far as I can tell I tightened the gas cap properly (and didn't leave the key in while filling, etc), I attributed the CEL to an evap system mishap. The light went off about the third cycle after it came on. When I got home, I put on the Peake reader, and all it said was 0x98, which is 'Pre-cat oxy sensor disconnection, cyl 1-3". I threw on the Peake for grins a few months earlier, and it also had the 0x98. Since then it had gone through a New York State inspection and dealer service, so I didn't worry about it too much (ha). Is there some relevant code that the Peake would read out if in fact there was a gas cap issue? Would it go away after the third drive cycle w/o a problem? Last Friday, on the third trip of the day, the CEL went on (after a hard 3rd gear acceleration :). When I brought the car home, I plugged in my Peake reader, and it again said 0x98. This time, playing around, I cleared the codes with the Peake, did a drive, and saw both 0x98 and 0xE3 (which is 'oxy sensor adaptation limit, cyl 1-3'). Soooo... I probably have a bad sensor. And maybe a vacuum leak too, for good measure. Now that I think about it, I have had an occasional stumble under moderate acceleration, so the sensor probably has been bad/ intermittent for a while, although I don't understand why I had no CEL before. I've been in DC all week (stuck in the Crystal Gateway Marriott), without the car, so I haven't been able to do any additional diagnosis or try a fix. I thought I'd ask here before trying to attack it next week (or maybe getting Brett to do it for me, I have to drive NY->MI via Ohio mid next week). Does anyone have any additional insight before I start tearing things apart? If I do replace the sensor, is it better to replace more than just the failing one? Both pre-cat? All 4? --Matt Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:01:00 -0400 From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was out having a few beeres with some friends, when naturally the conversation turned to cars... It started with talking about stuffing a Chebby LS-1 V-8 under the hood of a Porsche 944Turbo (and the V8 w/everything actually weighs less than the turbo 4 with its accessories...) It then went to the V8-Miata and then Rotary (Rx7 TT) power... Then next round of beers brought up the Q-ships or stealth cars... Starting with volvo's 740Turbo wagon race car... which then lead to Audi's S4 Avant (wagon) (I've seen the prev. gen twin-turbo version show up at Drivers' Ed track events and soundly trounce stock 911s :) Which leads me to my question... can the drivetrain and suspension from an M3 (E36 or 46) be swapped into the touring body? (easily?) or would it be easier to graft the c-pillars back onto an M3? (how, I'm not sure...) (I can see getting a wrecked M3 chassis and a straight Touring and playing Dr. Frankenstein... *insert evil laugh here* ) can the E46 M3 gear be fitted onto the 4wd system of the E46 or are the two really uncompatible? Cheers! -Jason '86 951 "Sparky" '70 240Z "Dusty" '97 Contour "Bambi" '03 325xi "Daisy" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:51:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you're willing to go older, the S50/S52 family of motors is pretty much a bolt-in to the E34 touring, which came with the M50 from the factory. An S54 could probably be made to work. Wiring, custom driveshaft, and other considerations still apply, but I know Brett A. has done at least a couple of these. The xi system on an E46 touring will probably complicate things, but anything is possible. But why not just drop that LS-1 into your 3er instead? If you're gonna go to all the trouble ... it was done with an E36 that's documented online somewhere. -tammer --- Jason Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was out having a few beeres with some friends, when > naturally the conversation turned to cars... > > It started with talking about stuffing a Chebby LS-1 V-8 > under the hood of a Porsche 944Turbo (and the V8 > w/everything actually weighs less than the turbo 4 with > its accessories...) > > It then went to the V8-Miata and then Rotary (Rx7 TT) > power... > > Then next round of beers brought up the Q-ships or > stealth cars... > Starting with volvo's 740Turbo wagon race car... which > then lead to Audi's S4 Avant (wagon) (I've seen the prev. > gen twin-turbo version show up at Drivers' Ed track > events and soundly trounce stock 911s :) > > Which leads me to my question... > can the drivetrain and suspension from an M3 (E36 or 46) > be swapped into the touring body? (easily?) or would it > be easier to graft the c-pillars back onto an M3? (how, > I'm not sure...) > > (I can see getting a wrecked M3 chassis and a straight > Touring and playing Dr. Frankenstein... *insert evil > laugh here* ) > > can the E46 M3 gear be fitted onto the 4wd system of the > E46 or are the two really uncompatible? > > Cheers! > > -Jason > '86 951 "Sparky" > '70 240Z "Dusty" > '97 Contour "Bambi" > '03 325xi "Daisy" > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:14:12 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A local BMW dealership head tech, Ray Adams, has already done that - he's transplanted the E46 M3 drivetrain into the E46 Touring body, and is currently finishing up a sedan. Apparently it's a straightforward swap as long as you have the complete M3 wiring harness, DME, etc. Personally, I think the really intriguing (yet undoubtedly more difficult) transplant would be the M5's S62 V8 into the E46 Touring. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: [UUC] Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings > I was out having a few beeres with some friends, when naturally the conversation turned to cars... > > It started with talking about stuffing a Chebby LS-1 V-8 under the hood of a Porsche 944Turbo (and the V8 w/everything actually weighs less than the turbo 4 with its accessories...) > > It then went to the V8-Miata and then Rotary (Rx7 TT) power... > > Then next round of beers brought up the Q-ships or stealth cars... > Starting with volvo's 740Turbo wagon race car... which then lead to Audi's S4 Avant (wagon) (I've seen the prev. gen twin-turbo version show up at Drivers' Ed track events and soundly trounce stock 911s :) > > Which leads me to my question... > can the drivetrain and suspension from an M3 (E36 or 46) be swapped into the touring body? (easily?) or would it be easier to graft the c-pillars back onto an M3? (how, I'm not sure...) > > (I can see getting a wrecked M3 chassis and a straight Touring and playing Dr. Frankenstein... *insert evil laugh here* ) > > can the E46 M3 gear be fitted onto the 4wd system of the E46 or are the two really uncompatible? > > Cheers! > > -Jason > '86 951 "Sparky" > '70 240Z "Dusty" > '97 Contour "Bambi" > '03 325xi "Daisy" > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006 > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:56:53 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings >What would be interesting is to see if you could put it into an E46 >iXT and retain the all wheel drive. It's actually pretty concidental >that this came up, I was just thinking about this whole thing since I >am thinking about selling my M5. Brett would be able to answer that with more detail, but I suspect you would run into major issues... the Xi AWD is all electronically controlled through the brakes (which is why it's not up to Audi/Subaru standards), and I do not think you could get that system to talk to the S54's DME. > One of the nice things about the S54 is that it seems to be a pretty >reliable powerplant, but maybe I just think that because I haven't > owned one yet... Reliable? Errr... not really so much. These engines are just shy of race-spec engines, which means running close to design limitations. Recall the two production series of the S54s that were destroying themselves due to minor bearing tolerance changes that other BMW engines would probably have tolerated. > The S62 OTOH seems to require a constant diet of $$ >to keep it running. It's a great engine without a doubt, it just > hasn't been terribly reliable in my experience. The basic engine itself is reliable... they're suffering from piddly support-system problems (vanos, intake deposits, timing sensors) but are not regularly showing major mechanical failure. If you really want big power and AWD in a BMW, you'd probably spend less and have a better result just by purchasing the X5 4.6is or 4.8is. The only downside being no manual trans. Or, you could simply find one of the rare X5 3.0i 5-speeds and use any of the available M54 forced induction kits. - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:59:18 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:01 AM 4/27/2006, Jason Kay wrote: >Which leads me to my question... >can the drivetrain and suspension from an M3 (E36 or 46) be swapped >into the touring body? (easily?) or would it be easier to graft >the c-pillars back onto an M3? (how, I'm not sure...) >(I can see getting a wrecked M3 chassis and a straight Touring and >playing Dr. Frankenstein... *insert evil laugh here* ) Have you seen this? http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=2002WAG The car is now owned by Ralph Warren of SPEED Touring and CCA Club Racing fame. It lives less than a mile from me, and I've gotten rides in it at the track a couple of times, and is easily as capable as any "normal" M3 out there. The work is probably even easier in a E36 (assuming you can get a E36 touring body into the US), considering all the "M3 ti" jobbies out there these days. There was an article in Roundel a while back about someone (Terry Sayther?) who took a euro E30 Touring and put E30M3 bits in it, even managing to graft on the rear fender bulges. >can the E46 M3 gear be fitted onto the 4wd system of the E46 or are >the two really uncompatible? I could see the front diff and associated subframe and suspension changes in the AWD setup to be a challenge to S54 installation, as well as the final result being able to handle the extra power reliably. >Cheers! > >-Jason >'86 951 "Sparky" >'70 240Z "Dusty" >'97 Contour "Bambi" >'03 325xi "Daisy" > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:57:49 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:14 AM 4/27/2006, Rob Levinson wrote: >Personally, I think the really intriguing (yet undoubtedly more difficult) >transplant would be the M5's S62 V8 into the E46 Touring. > >- Rob In Europe, I think both Racing Dynamics (R50) and Hartge (H50) will build one for ya... for a price, of course. Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(11 messages) **********
