The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 3 : Issue 236 : "text" Format

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  does strut mounts need to be replaced in E34 535i?
  Re: does strut mounts need to be replaced in E34 535i?
  Re: <E36> Luxury dash pieces
  Re: <E36> Luxury dash pieces
  FS: 1990 325is (SF Bay Area)
  Re: FS: 1990 325is (SF Bay Area)
  FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
  Re: FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
  Re: FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
  Re: FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
  Re: FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
  FW: 540 and 325iC For Sale This Time
  pressure testing cooling system
  Re: pressure testing cooling system
  RE : shipping

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:29:35 -0700
From: "Brewster Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: does strut mounts need to be replaced in E34 535i?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My left front strut is leaking in my 1990 E34 535i, 5spd, 108K miles.
Further, I now get vibration in both my steering wheel and brake pedal when
braking from speed.

So, I'm planning on changing front struts (Boge) and upper and lower control
arms (lemforder arms/Boge 750i bushing). Anything else?

Also, when changing struts, do I need to change the strut mounts (guide
support), in item 1 here:

http://tinyurl.com/n2mpb

I know there is a bearing in there, is it suppose to be changed or can it be
relube? Thanks! Brewster


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:21:11 -0400
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brewster Fong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: does strut mounts need to be replaced in E34 535i?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I rarely see BMW strut mounts fail.  I'd just go ahead and re-use them 
unless you see cracking in the rubber (open the hood and look)
Use E34 M5 bushings on the thrust rods, not E32 750.

Brett Anderson
KMS-Koala Motorsport
www.bmwdiffs.com
(440) 564 7574
9988 Kinsman Rd
Novelty, OH 44072
(Near Cleveland)



Brewster Fong wrote:
> My left front strut is leaking in my 1990 E34 535i, 5spd, 108K miles.
> Further, I now get vibration in both my steering wheel and brake pedal when
> braking from speed.
> 
> So, I'm planning on changing front struts (Boge) and upper and lower control
> arms (lemforder arms/Boge 750i bushing). Anything else?
> 
> Also, when changing struts, do I need to change the strut mounts (guide
> support), in item 1 here:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/n2mpb
> 
> I know there is a bearing in there, is it suppose to be changed or can it be
> relube? Thanks! Brewster

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:19:33 -0400
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Luxury dash pieces
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Not normally.

The wood in any given car is usually a very close match.  Unfortunately, 
the chances of ever matching that again are very slim.

Back in my dealer days, we used to get stupid E34 owners come in with 
cracked wood on the driver's door panel ONLY.  Why?  Because in the 
middle of winter with 2" of ice on their car, they would open the damn 
driver's window.  The extra thickness of the glass/ice combination would 
bulge the door panel as it passed through the opening in the door, to 
the point where it would crack the wood.

2 out of every 3 cars got all new wood, because we'd order a replacement 
piece and it wouldn't match, so the customer would insist that we 
replace all to match...........

It's wood.  Every tree is different, so the chances of getting more than 
a dozen or so identical pieces are nil. However, I've never seen one car 
with two shades of wood.

Brett Anderson
KMS-Koala Motorsport
www.bmwdiffs.com
(440) 564 7574
9988 Kinsman Rd
Novelty, OH 44072
(Near Cleveland)



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Gents,
> Are the two pieces, the shift surround and the rectangular piece above the
> glove box, of a different shade in the "wood" trim of the luxury package? I
> purchased the two and the piece over the glove box is a darker color
> whereas the shift surround is a much lighter (redder) shade.
> Is this normal?
> 
> I also didn't realize that the surround is really plastic. Is the wood a
> very thin veneer?
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:57:58 -0400
From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36> Luxury dash pieces
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

When I had the dealer replace the shifter console on my lux M3, it took 5 or
6 times for them to get a close match for the wood.   I would not have a
clue about ordering and paying out of pocket trying to get a match, is it
special order or can they send it back?   Under warranty I didn't care and
demanded a close match, I didn't expect a perfect match but it needed to be
of the same shade and pattern.   I think they had a bad batch of glue as I
had several replaced due to delaminating from the plastic.  

Yes it is a thin layer of wood veneer over plastic, just as the LTW pieces
are a thin layer of Carbon fiber over plastic.  They replaced every trim
piece in the LTW too, think they used Elmer's school glue.   

Mike  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bmwuucdigest-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KMS- Brett Anderson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:20 AM
> To: UUC Digest
> Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> Luxury dash pieces
> 
> Not normally.
> 
> The wood in any given car is usually a very close match.  Unfortunately,
> the chances of ever matching that again are very slim.
> 
> Back in my dealer days, we used to get stupid E34 owners come in with
> cracked wood on the driver's door panel ONLY.  Why?  Because in the
> middle of winter with 2" of ice on their car, they would open the damn
> driver's window.  The extra thickness of the glass/ice combination would
> bulge the door panel as it passed through the opening in the door, to
> the point where it would crack the wood.
> 
> 2 out of every 3 cars got all new wood, because we'd order a replacement
> piece and it wouldn't match, so the customer would insist that we
> replace all to match...........
> 
> It's wood.  Every tree is different, so the chances of getting more than
> a dozen or so identical pieces are nil. However, I've never seen one car
> with two shades of wood.
> 
> Brett Anderson
> KMS-Koala Motorsport
> www.bmwdiffs.com
> (440) 564 7574
> 9988 Kinsman Rd
> Novelty, OH 44072
> (Near Cleveland)
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Gents,
> > Are the two pieces, the shift surround and the rectangular piece above
> the
> > glove box, of a different shade in the "wood" trim of the luxury
> package? I
> > purchased the two and the piece over the glove box is a darker color
> > whereas the shift surround is a much lighter (redder) shade.
> > Is this normal?
> >
> > I also didn't realize that the surround is really plastic. Is the wood a
> > very thin veneer?
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________________________
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> CCA.
> >
> > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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> >
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> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:13:47 -0700
From: "Cyrus Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: FS: 1990 325is (SF Bay Area)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Been lurking for a long time and have learned lots. I wish I had
experiences to share with the group.

As the subject line says, my 325is is for sale. 184XXX miles.
I think I'm the third owner (can confirm on request). Inspection
II at 180XXX. New front control arms, tie rods, and bushings.
16" Alpinas (need some TLC), Cibie H1/H4 E-code lamps, and
E46 convertible RSM w/ Z3 reinforcement plates. Recent
servicing at Bavarian Motorsport.

One accident (rear-ended a minivan) which probably makes it
suitable only for track duty or for fun around town.

Asking $2500 but open to offers.

See pics at http://www.geocities.com/cyrusyliu/325is.html

Thanks for the bandwidth. Back to lurking...

Cyrus
May have more to ask the group with a 1995 525i on the way...

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:02:34 -0700
From: Dave Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: FS: 1990 325is (SF Bay Area)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Monday 21 August 2006 10:13 pm, Cyrus Liu wrote:
> One accident (rear-ended a minivan) which probably makes it
> suitable only for track duty or for fun around town.

Why is that? Is the chassis tweaked?

Dave

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:59:13 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Howdy, everyone.  I received the following link from a friend, who in turn
sent it around for a friend of his.  So I have ZERO first-hand experience
with this car, but it looks fairly decent and the price sounds about right
(maybe offer less?).  I'm told that while the eBay listing has ended, the
car is still for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=2000186
12066&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT

I'd buy it (or something like it, similarly priced) in a heartbeat, if it
had more rear seat room.  (Ah, dang it, I admit it, I just really want Rob's
750i Sport with the 6-speed manual....)


Disclaimer: I have no pecuniary interest in this sale, no financial gain
will accrue to me, your mileage may vary, do not remove tag under penalty of
law, shut off all cell phones and electronic devices when the aircraft door
closes, no smoking inside the building, rest 30 minutes after eating before
swimming, remove tag under penalty of law, do not wash with colors, place
your seatbacks and trays in their full and upright positions, good for use
until date indicated, please obey out-of-bounds markings, etc.


Vty,

--Dennis


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:52:17 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Perfect color, and the great 2-tone interior.  Looks like the auction was
ended early.

Dennis, my E38 is defintiely not for sale yet... I've been driving it more
the last couple of weeks, and it just makes me smile every time I get behind
the wheel.  Scared the fresca out of a guy in a C-class Sport that tried to
play "follow me" the other day.  Those big S-03s and the suspension were
worth every penny.  ;-)

- Rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [UUC] FW: Good deal on E39 M5?


>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=2000186
> 12066&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT
>
> I'd buy it (or something like it, similarly priced) in a heartbeat, if it
> had more rear seat room.  (Ah, dang it, I admit it, I just really want
Rob's
> 750i Sport with the 6-speed manual....)


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:55:00 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Rob wrote:

>Perfect color, and the great 2-tone interior.  Looks like the auction was
ended early.

>Dennis, my E38 is defintiely not for sale yet... I've been driving it more
the last couple of weeks, and it just makes me smile every time I get behind
the wheel.  Scared the fresca out of a guy in a C-class Sport that tried to
play "follow me" the other day.  Those big S-03s and the suspension were
worth every penny.  ;-)

--------

Ahem.  :-)  "I'm told that while the eBay listing has ended, the car is
still for sale."

It has a "buy it now" price of $26.9k, which seems darn reasonable to me.
Heck, I'd buy it just as a sixth car for S&G, if it weren't for the fact
that a recent post by a fellow E39 M5 owner on the E39 Yahoo list regarding
the cost of his maintenance scared the dickens out of me!

Which is all the more reason to be patient and wait for Rob to tire of his
heavy, clunky beast that gets terrible, just awful, gas mileage.  Rob,
surely you've thought about getting a new, Bangle-ized 750 so that you can
run Linux on the iDrive unit and never have to leave the car?


(Yeah, those V-12 motors and electricals are completely bulletproof, no??)
:-)

Vty,

--Dennis


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:00:15 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> It has a "buy it now" price of $26.9k, which seems darn reasonable to me.
> Heck, I'd buy it just as a sixth car for S&G, if it weren't for the fact
> that a recent post by a fellow E39 M5 owner on the E39 Yahoo list
regarding
> the cost of his maintenance scared the dickens out of me!

Indeed - frightening, especially a couple of problems that are becoming more
common - and almost unreconcilable.  First, the carbon in the head issue
casung a CE light fault (fixable, not being warranteed, costly).  Second,
the random overheating problem.  Yikes.


> Which is all the more reason to be patient and wait for Rob to tire of his
> heavy, clunky beast that gets terrible, just awful, gas mileage.

Mid/high 20s on highway cruises.  That surprised the hell out of me.

> Rob,
> surely you've thought about getting a new, Bangle-ized 750 so that you can
> run Linux on the iDrive unit and never have to leave the car?

Wasn't Linux one of the Peanux characters?   You know, with Xnoopy, Xally,
Luxy, and Charl1e Br0wn?


> (Yeah, those V-12 motors and electricals are completely bulletproof, no??)
> :-)

Completely bulletproof.  BMW learned it's lesson from the E32 nightmares and
over-compensated the reliability on the E38.  The only things that
chronically go bad on E38s are the instrument cluster pixels (mine replaced)
and the V8 models chew through radiators and front rotors.

- Rob


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:35:29 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: FW: Good deal on E39 M5?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>The only things that
>chronically go bad on E38s are the instrument cluster pixels (mine 
>replaced)
>and the V8 models chew through radiators and front rotors.


Uhh.. and $2000 catalytic converters.


Jon
______________________________________________

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TreehouseRacing.com
M50conversion.com
615.333.9118
______________________________________________
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [UUC] FW: Good deal on E39 M5?


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> It has a "buy it now" price of $26.9k, which seems darn reasonable to me.
>> Heck, I'd buy it just as a sixth car for S&G, if it weren't for the fact
>> that a recent post by a fellow E39 M5 owner on the E39 Yahoo list
> regarding
>> the cost of his maintenance scared the dickens out of me!
>
> Indeed - frightening, especially a couple of problems that are becoming 
> more
> common - and almost unreconcilable.  First, the carbon in the head issue
> casung a CE light fault (fixable, not being warranteed, costly).  Second,
> the random overheating problem.  Yikes.
>
>
>> Which is all the more reason to be patient and wait for Rob to tire of 
>> his
>> heavy, clunky beast that gets terrible, just awful, gas mileage.
>
> Mid/high 20s on highway cruises.  That surprised the hell out of me.
>
>> Rob,
>> surely you've thought about getting a new, Bangle-ized 750 so that you 
>> can
>> run Linux on the iDrive unit and never have to leave the car?
>
> Wasn't Linux one of the Peanux characters?   You know, with Xnoopy, Xally,
> Luxy, and Charl1e Br0wn?
>
>
>> (Yeah, those V-12 motors and electricals are completely bulletproof, 
>> no??)
>> :-)
>
> Completely bulletproof.  BMW learned it's lesson from the E32 nightmares 
> and
> over-compensated the reliability on the E38.  The only things that
> chronically go bad on E38s are the instrument cluster pixels (mine 
> replaced)
> and the V8 models chew through radiators and front rotors.
>
> - Rob
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com 


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:05:26 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "'LS'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: 540 and 325iC For Sale This Time
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My friend who sent me the info about the E39 M5 has asked me to pass along
some info on HIS E34 540ia, which is also for sale.


To quote him, "Sorry, I'm not actually running a used car lot. But, I have 2
cars that I need to sell out of my personal fleet!  1994 BMW 540i, blk/tan,
67k miles, runs excellent, $11k for any of you guys:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=575562&highlight=1994

Pics are available upon request.  I also have a blk/blk '88 325i Convertible
that I bought as a daily beater. I may end up splitting daily duties between
my motorcycle and a leased car, so I may not need it after all.

Thanks, 

Lashdeep Singh"

Lashdeep is quite a motorhead and a good guy.  Please contact HIM at
[EMAIL PROTECTED], if anyone is interested.


Disclaimer: I have no pecuniary interest in this sale, no financial gain
will accrue to me, your mileage may vary, do not remove tag under penalty of
law, shut off all cell phones and electronic devices when the aircraft door
closes, no smoking inside the building, rest 30 minutes after eating before
swimming, remove tag under penalty of law, do not wash with colors, place
your seatbacks and trays in their full and upright positions, good for use
until date indicated, please obey out-of-bounds markings, etc.


Vty,

--Dennis


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:05:32 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]>,
        bmw digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pressure testing cooling system
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

     Does anyone in the Bay area have a coolant pressure tester that I 
could borrow?  The water pump is only a year/ 12k miles old, E46 
radiator/ lower temp sensor/ metal housing all installed together.  I 
see no visible signs of leakage, but the coolant is going somewhere.  
 From full to the "check coolant level" warning going off twice in the 
last few tanks now.  Before that, not a drop missing in over a year.
     Are there know bad brands of water pump, as Miele is to ball 
joints?  The one I installed was an all brass impeller european brand, 
don't recall which.
tia,
Barry

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:18:22 -0700
From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, bmw digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pressure testing cooling system
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone in the Bay area have ...

Focus your query on SF Bay area folks at
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bimmerheads>.



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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:05:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "DRENDEL JOHN V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE : shipping
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just for the record, USPS may be a pain,but it is the only reasonable way
to ship parts to Canada without incurring brokerage fees that can easily
double the price of a part. Please think of us Montrealers if Koala
ever successfully puts to gether an E30 ix torque converter! If he does,
Brett will get big love from North of the border, no matter how cranky he
gets...

And for what its worth,  Brett's also a BMWCCA tech advisor, i.e. he
agrees to answer dumb questions every day for nuttin'but the milk of human
kindness.


John

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