The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 467 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: S54 into the E36 (was <OT> GM Trucks) Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Re: Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Re: Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Re: Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Re: Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Re: S54 into the E36(was <OT> GM Trucks) Re: <E36> M3 tires <E36> M3 tires Re: <E36> M3 tires Re: <E36> M3 tires Re: <E36> M3 tires Re: <E36> M3 tires Re: <E36> M3 tires (Grant Cagann) OBC Functions
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 22:55:55 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: S54 into the E36 (was <OT> GM Trucks) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pulled the numbers from www.conceptcarz.com but I thought their E36 number was low at 2846, so I found the E36 number elsewhere. Didn't think the Z3 figure was out of line, but you probably know better than I do on that one. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] S54 into the E36 (was <OT> GM Trucks) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 19:25:48 -0400 > Rob, > 2,940 lbs for the MZ3 Coupe? Everything I've read says > 3,131 lbs. with the S52. Or are you talking minimum > weights for some race class? Woody ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 06:12:32 -0400 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My '96 318i weighs in at about 2,896. A weekend ago, I had 29+ mpg up to NHIS (including under two minutes of autocross) and 28.28 mpg on the way home (Connecticut). Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] S54 into the E36 (was <OT> GM Trucks) > Pulled the numbers from www.conceptcarz.com but I thought > their E36 number was low at 2,846, so I found the E36 number > elsewhere. Didn't think the Z3 figure was out of line, but > you probably know better than I do on that one. > > - Rob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Rob, >> 2,940 lbs for the MZ3 Coupe? Everything I've read says >> 3,131 lbs. with the S52. Or are you talking minimum >> weights for some race class? Woody ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:55:02 -0400 From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Would an S54 fit in a Ti? 1st -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Murray Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 My '96 318i weighs in at about 2,896. A weekend ago, I had 29+ mpg up to NHIS (including under two minutes of autocross) and 28.28 mpg on the way home (Connecticut). Matt Murray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 08:15:04 -0400 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> First (or "foist" as they say in the Bronx), my 318i is a four door sedan, not a ti coupe. The chassis is an E36 no matter what. :^) It was bone stock except for some Konis and Kosei wheels with Hoosier Racing Tires. I did have a friend looking into dropping the 740i 4.0 motor (I don't know the number ID) into a E36 (don't know if it succeeded). Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Would an S54 fit in a Ti? > > > -----Original Message----- > My '96 318i weighs in at about 2,896. A weekend ago, I had 29+ mpg up to > NHIS (including under two minutes of autocross) and 28.28 mpg on the way > home (Connecticut). > > Matt Murray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 08:30:03 -0500 From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.akgmotorsport.com/swaps.html M62 into e30 M70 into e36 :-O S52B32 into e30 M30 into e2 :-O I know Andy personally, he is a krazy as he seems! ;-) Great guy, his eccentricity is one of the things I miss about northern Illinois. Cheers! Paul Garnier FastNetworking.com 281-827-0725 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Murray Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 My '96 318i weighs in at about 2,896. A weekend ago, I had 29+ mpg up to NHIS (including under two minutes of autocross) and 28.28 mpg on the way home (Connecticut). Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] S54 into the E36 (was <OT> GM Trucks) > Pulled the numbers from www.conceptcarz.com but I thought > their E36 number was low at 2,846, so I found the E36 number > elsewhere. Didn't think the Z3 figure was out of line, but > you probably know better than I do on that one. > > - Rob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Rob, >> 2,940 lbs for the MZ3 Coupe? Everything I've read says >> 3,131 lbs. with the S52. Or are you talking minimum >> weights for some race class? Woody Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 09:40:37 -0400 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Weights and mileage, was: S54 into the E36 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've autocrossed a E30 with a second gen M3 motor (can't remember if it was a 3.2 or 3.0. I think is was the 3.0 'cause you can tweak the motor easier). Fun car to drive. Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- > http://www.akgmotorsport.com/swaps.html > > M62 into e30 > M70 into e36 :-O > S52B32 into e30 > M30 into e2 :-O > > Paul Garnier ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 23:00:39 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: S54 into the E36(was <OT> GM Trucks) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nope, mine is designed to be 100% legal in every respect... I even got pre-approval from NJ Internal Inspections before it was started. No non-certified turbos, snuck-in Euro chassis, OBD-II foolin' around with this one. 100% legit, even the replacement cats are CARB-compliant. It's even going nearly full-on stealth (as much as a black M3 can be) with normal orange turn signals, no crazy body add-ons, etc. The suspicion that something isn't quite right only starts when you look at the hardware. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]>, "Kazuto Okayasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] S54 into the E36(was <OT> GM Trucks) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:07:17 -0400 > Do you mean this? > http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2561560 > > Turbo S52, not S54. > Woody ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:39:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> M3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A friend who has run Goodyear F1s on his Nissan 350Z complained that they lose grip very quickly and unexpectedly when they're run too warm on the track (Buttonwillow in the fall). All tires do this, but he thought it was too abrupt on the F1s. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 21:24:58 -0700 From: "Grant Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: <E36> M3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some may disagree, but I think Yoko AVS ES100s are the best bang for the buck, as long as you rotate them at every fuel stop. Grant Cagann -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of m3 drvr Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:51 PM To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> M3 tires My quick 2 cents...I have the GoodYear F1s and they have been GREAT. No issues, good on bumps and very good in the rain (Mass). I probably have 10k miles on them and they will probably last another 10 - 15k more. Recommended. Clyde 98 M3/4 >From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [UUC] <E36> M3 tires >Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:27:26 -0400 > >I've heard from other sources that the PS2s are greats, as are the SO3s >(but which have older data) But I've heard even beter things about the >GoodYear F1 GS-D3s (which are newer than the PS2s) > >HTH. > >-Jason >'86 951 "Sparky" >'70 240Z "Dusty" >'03 325xi "Daisy" >'06 Mini CooperS > > > > > From the Tirerack web site it looks like the Michellin PS2's are >superior > > to the Pole Position S03's and the Kumho MX's and even the old Pilot >Sports > > while offering fairly good wear performance. Anyone have first hand > > experience with this model? How are the Yoko Neova's. They spec close to > > the Pilot Sports. > > Below the wear bars on my back tires and looking for new. > > > > Kevin > > E36 M3 with Dinan SC- 17.03mpg but needs a clutch. > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com _________________________________________________________________ Interest Rates NEAR 39yr LOWS! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,299/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-19132&moid=14888 Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 08:20:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> M3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carlos, You're only partly correct. :) The 712's work well on the track IN THE DRY. In the wet they are totally unpredictable and therefore NOT for novice drivers!! In my opinion (I've driven both street/track wet and dry) the Yoko ES100 is only 1/2 a step above the 712 Kumho but also works well on track if it is warm and dry. The PS2 has been better than every 'utility player' tire I've ever driven (save Hoosiers on the track!). Excellent in the wet, very good in the dry (could probably beat it with a KD g-Force for pure dry performance) and predictable on the track, for turn-in, etc. They were silent throughout their life too. This is an important distinction to me as I hate sounding like a 4x4 with knobby tires driving down the road. THe Goodyear F1 GS-D3 is also a very good wet weather tire, but I have the same dry track complaints and the turn-in is not as crisp as with the PS2. Likely due to the outside shoulder block design and split compound on the PS2. Then again, I'm very picky about my street tires and I try a new set everytime I get a chance. :) The next set is already mounted waiting to be used. Cheers, Chet -----Original Message----- >From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >--- John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm glad I'm not the only one who dislikes the Kumho 712. When I >> changed from my S-03's, my autocross times went way up - they just >> don't have the traction. Serves me right for going cheap. > >The one redeeming value of the Kumhos though is that they're great on >the track, especially if you're a newbie, they'll talk to you a lot. >Even as a non newbie I was chasing down E46 M3s and euro motored E36 >M3s in my Kumho (205 width) shod E30 and I couldn't kill those tires >even though they were screaming for mercy. :-) On the street they >suck though, they seem to develop a flat spot if the car sits for a >couple of days, flop, flop, flop. > >And ES100s! Kaz you're kidding me, you just lost all sorts of >credibility with that comment. The only redeeming value those tires >have is that they look cool. :-) Alright maybe not that bad but I >would only recommend them to people that are too cheap to spend money >on good street tires (like me). I've bought them twice now for two >different cars but I'm not terribly picky about my street tires, my E30 >was still on snow tires as of last week and my E36 M3 is still on snow >tires. On-ramps tend to be a little noisy when I'm merging onto the >highway. :-D > >Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 10:58:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Karl Rentler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> M3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karl, I agree, but at the same time it is not always a clear distinction: 1) I don't trailer my car to the track at this point, therefore I can cram only 5 extra tires/wheels and all my tools into the car and head off. I sort of like it this way as often the drive to/from the track with a group of friends is much fun. 2) I don't 'race' the car (DE's only thus far) and therefore I'm not always after the optimal lap time but instead work on learning the car/track/set-up/having fun and street tires are more forgiving and predictable at the sacrifice of lap times. 3) My dedicated track tires are a premium to me and I try to make them last. Thus I don't give them any more heat cycles than necessary. So often my first and last sessions of a DE are run on street tires. A good way to warm-up/cool-down and work on skills. Not to mention sometimes there are just too many things to do before my first session to worry about changing tires. Besides at Mid-Ohio in the spring and Grattan in the fall as my annual first/last events get awefully cold in the mornings and a cold street tire is better than a cold track tire! 4) When it rains or is drying-out I run street tires on the track. I don't carry R-compound wets as I don't have the budget or room to carry them with me. But I don't bag it and go home either, I run rain or shine. 5) The 'right' street tire does not suck as bad as it would seem for track work. They won't last as long as a track tire and certainly won't decrease lap times, but you can learn a lot and they can far exceed a 'track tire' if it is wet out. Therefore I end up using street tires on the track almost as often as my track tires! But it is not my 'design intent'! As a result I value a 'utility player' tire highly as wet weather track use is something it will certainly see during its life. I run snow tires in the winter, summer tires in the spring/summer/fall and track tires as often as practical. But there is always over-lap! Cheers, Chet Dawes -----Original Message----- >From: Karl Rentler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >If you want a good track tire, buy a track tire. Street tires suck for >track work... > >Karl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:48:11 -0400 From: "Karl Rentler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> M3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you want a good track tire, buy a track tire. Street tires suck for track work... If you want a good street tire, almost any of the aforementioned tires will work more than adequately for day to day driving. Some will have more noise and/or softer sidewall than others. Depending on what you prefer from a tire. Read the comments here and on Tirerack or any other tire review site (with a grain of salt) to see what other opinions have been given. You really cant go wrong with the Michelins, Bridgestones, or Goodyears, that have been mentioned for a good summer tire. Karl Prefers Hoosiers for track, and whatever I can trash for the street. As long as its round, somewhat quite, and has more dry traction than Los's snows. On 5/2/07, Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carlos, > You're only partly correct. :) The 712's work well on the track IN THE DRY. > In the wet they are totally unpredictable and therefore NOT for novice > drivers!! > In my opinion (I've driven both street/track wet and dry) the Yoko ES100 is > only 1/2 a step above the 712 Kumho but also works well on track if it is > warm and dry. > The PS2 has been better than every 'utility player' tire I've ever driven > (save Hoosiers on the track!). Excellent in the wet, very good in the dry > (could probably beat it with a KD g-Force for pure dry performance) and > predictable on the track, for turn-in, etc. They were silent throughout > their life too. This is an important distinction to me as I hate sounding > like a 4x4 with knobby tires driving down the road. > > THe Goodyear F1 GS-D3 is also a very good wet weather tire, but I have the > same dry track complaints and the turn-in is not as crisp as with the PS2. > Likely due to the outside shoulder block design and split compound on the PS2. > > Then again, I'm very picky about my street tires and I try a new set > everytime I get a chance. :) > The next set is already mounted waiting to be used. > > Cheers, > Chet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 08:25:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> M3 tires Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 2 May 2007, Karl Rentler wrote: > If you want a good track tire, buy a track tire. Street tires suck for > track work... It depends on why you go to the track. If it's to warm up for your upcoming race, then by all means run R compounds. If it's to explore the envelope of your daily driver to improve your street safety, then your everyday street tires are the most sensible choice. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 04:47:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> M3 tires (Grant Cagann) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OMG I see your brother has gotten to you also and poisioned your mind. The person you need to be listening to is your father!! - he knows what the value of proper maintenance is. Lord save our Caganns Phil Davis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:52:17 -0700 (PDT) From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: OBC Functions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jim Bassett wrote: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/repair_faqs/obc.html Great link Jim. I had previously used the voltage one when my alternator was acting up (test 9) but didn't know how to use the others. Kevin Kelly '91 M5 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
