Susan I never implied that unhealthy stock should be bred from - of course they shouldn't but one has to weigh the health defect against the advantages that dog or bitch might have. For example I would use a dog with late onset who developed a murmur at say nine or ten if he had all the attributes that I wanted for my bitch I was commenting on the indiscriminate buying of unrelated bitches which in my opinion is not the way to start breeding - type is lost. From what I have seen and heard health appears to be the priority whereas I think it should go hand in hand with type
Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Cochran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] co-owning and other strings..... > That is not > the way to breed and why I foresee a generic Cavalier in the future - > passing all its health clearances but the true essence of the Cavalier lost > Again just my opinion for what it is worth > > Annette > ------------ > > Well, the US has tried breeding for type and gotten the beautiful Cavalier > that drops dead at age seven. Surely there is a midway point between that > and the plain dog that lives to be 15. Well, I know that there is as I have > seen some beauties that were old and typy, so I know that it can be done, > but not by breeding to unhealthy dogs no matter how beautiful. > > I actually think that the breeder practises and club politics in the past > caused a genetic bottleneck that was similar to the cheetah or to foundation > stud syndrome. This can be overcome, but not by using unhealthy dogs even if > they are of great beauty. > > All the best, > Susan Cochran > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Annette Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] co-owning and other strings..... > > > > Couldn't agree with you more Linda. There are far to many people "in" > > Cavaliers because they are the "in Breed " to own. What is wrong with > > starting off with a pet and starting to learn from there??? Why do people > > expect to be spoon fed information that it has taken a person many years > to > > learn themselves. > > Why expect there to be a financial return? From where I sit I find it > > appalling that no sooner has someone acquired a bitch than the next topic > is > > who it can be bred to and how often. I won't even start on what my opinion > > is of the contracts that some poor new owners are required to sign!! > > As for buying bitches first from one kennel and then from another with no > > thought as to type or pedigree be they imports or from the US. That is not > > the way to breed and why I foresee a generic Cavalier in the future - > > passing all its health clearances but the true essence of the Cavalier > lost > > Again just my opinion for what it is worth > > > > Annette > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Berman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] co-owning and other strings..... > > > > > > > After reading Suze's post, I can't help wondering about the phrase > > "getting > > > into cavaliers". I am of the mindset that many if not most people > > started > > > out with the breed because they just plain wanted to be around one. The > > > romance evolved from there. I did not purchase my first Cavalier as a > > > potential investment, or anything I thought would take over my life. > And > > > even getting "in" cavaliers there is no guarantee that all of the dogs > we > > > own or breed live up to any potential we dream about. Sad to think > that > > > the pleasure of owning a Cavalier is looked at as more of a business > deal > > by > > > many. 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