On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
> Hi, > > > On 9 Feb 2018, at 15:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> > wrote: > > > >> Hi Caty, > >> > >> I see in the screenshot that it says “The default logo can be overridden > >> (typo in your text btw ;)) by Color Themes or at wiki or page level”. > >> > >> Several questions: > >> * What does it mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that? Using a > >> custom skin? Using a color theme? > >> * Does it mean this is adding yet another way of defining the logo, > which > >> means that we would the ability to set it in the new admin UI, in skins > & > >> in color themes? Isn’t that too much? > >> * What does it mean in practice when you set it in the admin UI, i.e. > >> where is it materialized? > >> > > > > Well these are the questions we need to answer from a development point > of > > view. > > In theory it would be nice to be able to change the Skin logo using this > > control. Somehow create a shortcut between this default logo and the skin > > logo, or change the base skin logo from the filesystem. This way the > Color > > Themes will display the logo. Other ideas are welcomed. > > > > The description is technical I know, still there are so many ways in > XWiki > > to change to logo and override it, that a warning is welcomed. > > Right now, I disagree with this proposal (I’d vote -1 if it were a vote) > since it doesn’t currently address what happens to the other ways of > changing the logo and it adds yet another way on top of the existing ones, > making the situation even more complex… > > So for me we need to: > 1) Rationalize the change of logo better in the proposal and explain what > happens to the other places and explain in the proposal why the user would > use one or the other of the ways. Do some ways get deprecated or not either? > 2) Define what it means to change the logo in the proposed new Admin UI. > Does it create a new skin? Does it modifies the DefaultSkin page and attach > a logo to it? Does it modifies the currently selected Color Theme and adds > a logo to it? Does it do something else? > It should change the filesystem logo.png/svg from the base skin OR add an attachment to the DefaultSkin' (which version is more easy technically - I guess the DefaultSkin attachment). Being as the default logo for the DefaultSkin, this means it can be inherited / overridden by the Color Themes. > > I also need some answers to my questions asked above such as "What does it > mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that? Using a custom skin? > Using a color theme?" > The wiki/page level mention was because you can have a different Skin/CT with a different logo for that level. If you think that is confusing, we can rephrase it. Thanks, Caty > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > >> > >> Thanks > >> -Vincent > >> > >>> On 9 Feb 2018, at 14:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> As some of you know, in January we had another session of usability > tests > >>> performed. As a result of those tests, I have prioritized [1] some > issues > >>> that we might want to improve in our next 10.x+ Roadmaps. > >>> > >>> One of the entries from that list is: "Create a dedicated Logo section > in > >>> Administration". > >>> > >>> Although we made some improvements in this area, users still struggle > to > >>> find the Logo changing area (takes more than 3 minutes). Plus there is > a > >>> lot of confusion between the Skin and ColorThemes overriding. > >>> > >>> This is a proposal to explicitly have a Logo section inside the Themes > >>> section of Administration > >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ > >> IdeaChangeLogo#HSolution1-1 > >>> > >>> Let me know what you think, > >>> Caty > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Usability/ > >> Tasks5/Prioritization/ > >
