On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:
> > On 9 Feb 2018, at 15:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com>
> > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net>
> >> Hi Caty,
> >> I see in the screenshot that it says “The default logo can be overridden
> >> (typo in your text btw ;)) by Color Themes or at wiki or page level”.
> >> Several questions:
> >> * What does it mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that? Using a
> >> custom skin? Using a color theme?
> >> * Does it mean this is adding yet another way of defining the logo,
> >> means that we would the ability to set it in the new admin UI, in skins
> >> in color themes? Isn’t that too much?
> >> * What does it mean in practice when you set it in the admin UI, i.e.
> >> where is it materialized?
> > Well these are the questions we need to answer from a development point
> > view.
> > In theory it would be nice to be able to change the Skin logo using this
> > control. Somehow create a shortcut between this default logo and the skin
> > logo, or change the base skin logo from the filesystem. This way the
> > Themes will display the logo. Other ideas are welcomed.
> > The description is technical I know, still there are so many ways in
> > to change to logo and override it, that a warning is welcomed.
> Right now, I disagree with this proposal (I’d vote -1 if it were a vote)
> since it doesn’t currently address what happens to the other ways of
> changing the logo and it adds yet another way on top of the existing ones,
> making the situation even more complex…
> So for me we need to:
> 1) Rationalize the change of logo better in the proposal and explain what
> happens to the other places and explain in the proposal why the user would
> use one or the other of the ways. Do some ways get deprecated or not either?
> 2) Define what it means to change the logo in the proposed new Admin UI.
> Does it create a new skin? Does it modifies the DefaultSkin page and attach
> a logo to it? Does it modifies the currently selected Color Theme and adds
> a logo to it? Does it do something else?
I would add that if this is the *default* logo and each color theme defines
its own logo (like it happens right now) then changing the logo from this
section will not have any effect as this logo will be overwritten by the
logo specified on the color theme.
> I also need some answers to my questions asked above such as "What does it
> mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that? Using a custom skin?
> Using a color theme?"
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
> >> Thanks
> >> -Vincent
> >>> On 9 Feb 2018, at 14:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> As some of you know, in January we had another session of usability
> >>> performed. As a result of those tests, I have prioritized  some
> >>> that we might want to improve in our next 10.x+ Roadmaps.
> >>> One of the entries from that list is: "Create a dedicated Logo section
> >>> Administration".
> >>> Although we made some improvements in this area, users still struggle
> >>> find the Logo changing area (takes more than 3 minutes). Plus there is
> >>> lot of confusion between the Skin and ColorThemes overriding.
> >>> This is a proposal to explicitly have a Logo section inside the Themes
> >>> section of Administration
> >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
> >> IdeaChangeLogo#HSolution1-1
> >>> Let me know what you think,
> >>> Caty
> >>> 
> >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Usability/
> >> Tasks5/Prioritization/