On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea < > mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > > On 9 Feb 2018, at 15:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com >> > >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > >> Hi Caty, >> > >> >> > >> I see in the screenshot that it says “The default logo can be >> overridden >> > >> (typo in your text btw ;)) by Color Themes or at wiki or page level”. >> > >> >> > >> Several questions: >> > >> * What does it mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that? >> Using a >> > >> custom skin? Using a color theme? >> > >> * Does it mean this is adding yet another way of defining the logo, >> > which >> > >> means that we would the ability to set it in the new admin UI, in >> skins >> > & >> > >> in color themes? Isn’t that too much? >> > >> * What does it mean in practice when you set it in the admin UI, i.e. >> > >> where is it materialized? >> > >> >> > > >> > > Well these are the questions we need to answer from a development >> point >> > of >> > > view. >> > > In theory it would be nice to be able to change the Skin logo using >> this >> > > control. Somehow create a shortcut between this default logo and the >> skin >> > > logo, or change the base skin logo from the filesystem. This way the >> > Color >> > > Themes will display the logo. Other ideas are welcomed. >> > > >> > > The description is technical I know, still there are so many ways in >> > XWiki >> > > to change to logo and override it, that a warning is welcomed. >> > >> > Right now, I disagree with this proposal (I’d vote -1 if it were a vote) >> > since it doesn’t currently address what happens to the other ways of >> > changing the logo and it adds yet another way on top of the existing >> ones, >> > making the situation even more complex… >> > >> > So for me we need to: >> > 1) Rationalize the change of logo better in the proposal and explain >> what >> > happens to the other places and explain in the proposal why the user >> would >> > use one or the other of the ways. Do some ways get deprecated or not >> either? >> > 2) Define what it means to change the logo in the proposed new Admin UI. >> > Does it create a new skin? Does it modifies the DefaultSkin page and >> attach >> > a logo to it? Does it modifies the currently selected Color Theme and >> adds >> > a logo to it? Does it do something else? >> > >> >> I would add that if this is the *default* logo and each color theme >> defines >> its own logo (like it happens right now) then changing the logo from this >> section will not have any effect as this logo will be overwritten by the >> logo specified on the color theme. >> > > The label says "Default Logo". Also the majority of ColorThemes don't have > logos provided, so they inherit the one from the Skin. > We have a problem here with the themes that use darker colors and they provide their own logo, with the correct contrast colors. > > Thanks, > Caty > > >> >> >> > >> > I also need some answers to my questions asked above such as "What does >> it >> > mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that? Using a custom skin? >> > Using a color theme?" >> > >> > Thanks >> > -Vincent >> > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Caty >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > >> Thanks >> > >> -Vincent >> > >> >> > >>> On 9 Feb 2018, at 14:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> vali...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> Hi, >> > >>> >> > >>> As some of you know, in January we had another session of usability >> > tests >> > >>> performed. As a result of those tests, I have prioritized [1] some >> > issues >> > >>> that we might want to improve in our next 10.x+ Roadmaps. >> > >>> >> > >>> One of the entries from that list is: "Create a dedicated Logo >> section >> > in >> > >>> Administration". >> > >>> >> > >>> Although we made some improvements in this area, users still >> struggle >> > to >> > >>> find the Logo changing area (takes more than 3 minutes). Plus there >> is >> > a >> > >>> lot of confusion between the Skin and ColorThemes overriding. >> > >>> >> > >>> This is a proposal to explicitly have a Logo section inside the >> Themes >> > >>> section of Administration >> > >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >> > >> IdeaChangeLogo#HSolution1-1 >> > >>> >> > >>> Let me know what you think, >> > >>> Caty >> > >>> >> > >>> [1] >> > >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Usability/ >> > >> Tasks5/Prioritization/ >> > >> > >> > >
