On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > On 9 Feb 2018, at 15:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Caty, > > >> > > >> I see in the screenshot that it says “The default logo can be > overridden > > >> (typo in your text btw ;)) by Color Themes or at wiki or page level”. > > >> > > >> Several questions: > > >> * What does it mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that? > Using a > > >> custom skin? Using a color theme? > > >> * Does it mean this is adding yet another way of defining the logo, > > which > > >> means that we would the ability to set it in the new admin UI, in > skins > > & > > >> in color themes? Isn’t that too much? > > >> * What does it mean in practice when you set it in the admin UI, i.e. > > >> where is it materialized? > > >> > > > > > > Well these are the questions we need to answer from a development point > > of > > > view. > > > In theory it would be nice to be able to change the Skin logo using > this > > > control. Somehow create a shortcut between this default logo and the > skin > > > logo, or change the base skin logo from the filesystem. This way the > > Color > > > Themes will display the logo. Other ideas are welcomed. > > > > > > The description is technical I know, still there are so many ways in > > XWiki > > > to change to logo and override it, that a warning is welcomed. > > > > Right now, I disagree with this proposal (I’d vote -1 if it were a vote) > > since it doesn’t currently address what happens to the other ways of > > changing the logo and it adds yet another way on top of the existing > ones, > > making the situation even more complex… > > > > So for me we need to: > > 1) Rationalize the change of logo better in the proposal and explain what > > happens to the other places and explain in the proposal why the user > would > > use one or the other of the ways. Do some ways get deprecated or not > either? > > 2) Define what it means to change the logo in the proposed new Admin UI. > > Does it create a new skin? Does it modifies the DefaultSkin page and > attach > > a logo to it? Does it modifies the currently selected Color Theme and > adds > > a logo to it? Does it do something else? > > > > I would add that if this is the *default* logo and each color theme defines > its own logo (like it happens right now) then changing the logo from this > section will not have any effect as this logo will be overwritten by the > logo specified on the color theme. > The label says "Default Logo". Also the majority of ColorThemes don't have logos provided, so they inherit the one from the Skin. Thanks, Caty > > > > > > I also need some answers to my questions asked above such as "What does > it > > mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that? Using a custom skin? > > Using a color theme?" > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > > Thanks, > > > Caty > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> -Vincent > > >> > > >>> On 9 Feb 2018, at 14:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> As some of you know, in January we had another session of usability > > tests > > >>> performed. As a result of those tests, I have prioritized [1] some > > issues > > >>> that we might want to improve in our next 10.x+ Roadmaps. > > >>> > > >>> One of the entries from that list is: "Create a dedicated Logo > section > > in > > >>> Administration". > > >>> > > >>> Although we made some improvements in this area, users still struggle > > to > > >>> find the Logo changing area (takes more than 3 minutes). Plus there > is > > a > > >>> lot of confusion between the Skin and ColorThemes overriding. > > >>> > > >>> This is a proposal to explicitly have a Logo section inside the > Themes > > >>> section of Administration > > >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ > > >> IdeaChangeLogo#HSolution1-1 > > >>> > > >>> Let me know what you think, > > >>> Caty > > >>> > > >>> [1] > > >>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Usability/ > > >> Tasks5/Prioritization/ > > > > >
