On 15/04/2009, at 10:45 PM, Gabrielle Hendryx-Parker wrote:
This new draft is the results of many discussions and edits. It is
important that the majority of people in the Community feel
comfortable with it.
Some of your concerns have been addressed in that we are now
positioning Plone as an "enterprise quality CMS". However we don't
feel that Plone is a real DMS and don't think we should position it
as one in light of the superiority of other products in that
yeah fair call about DCMs. I don't mean to be disrespectful to the
work already done. I was just hoping we can come up with something
really compelling that reflects plone real differences. Drupal can't
combine document repository type functionality with a web CMS the way
plone can but it is easy to install. You guys are the experts though.
field. However, we did mention that "Plone is a true CMS with built-
workflow and document management features" in question #8.
Furthermore, the description of Plone as being an application that
is easy to use has been better expressed in this new statement: "is
easy for developers to download and install, and easy for end-users
While these are general guidelines we encourage the Community to
follow, they should not prevent you from adapting the general
message to better fit your sales pitch to a specific client. We just
can't make the exception the rules for everyone.
I hope this addresses your concerns.
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On Apr 14, 2009, at 11:28 PM, Dylan Jay wrote:
Gabrielle, I'm a little confused, can I go in and edit this part
directly even if its a bit of a departure from what was there
see my comments below
On 14/04/2009, at 4:32 PM, Alexander Limi wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:51:19 +0200, Dylan Jay <d...@pretaweb.com>
IMHO we're much better selling plone on it's enterprise grade
power. The fact thats its both a web CMS and document management
system. And set the expectation that Plone being Enterprise grade
combined with consultants produces a fantastic fit to your
These are all good points, and do not contradict the other parts
of the story.
you are right but the point I was making was that when we sing
Plone's praises perhaps we pick just our key differentiator for our
audience so that our message has more impact. I don't think easy to
install is a key differentiator.
Since its pretty unclear who the audience for these questions is,
that makes it hard. Is this aimed at getting developers to take on
plone as a tool or at organisation decision makers looking for a
Plone the community open source enterprise content management
system. It's power comes from it's unique combination of content
management, document management, workflow, collaboration tools and
web theming engine.
For those controlling the content of site it provides an easy to
use yet power web interface.
For those choosing their organisations next web presence or
Intranet Plone efficiencies by combining several systems into one
while maintaining integration with existing systems and the highest
levels of security.
For developers it provides to tools to create anything from a
simple blog to scalble multiserver global intranet, customised to
the exact user requirements.
Plone is among the top 2% of all open source projects worldwide,
with 200 core developers and over 300 solution providers in more
than 50 countries.
Plone has been actively developed since 2001, is available in more
than 40 languages, and has the best security track record of any
Plone's codebase and intellectual property is owned by the Plone
Foundation, which is a non-profit organization where donations are
tax-deductible (at least in the US).
It's a bit clumsy and could be cut down but I think it has more
No one expects SAP to be easy to install do they?
The thing is, Plone *is* easy to install, and you get a very
sophisticated setup even when using the base installers. It's just
a bit challenging to develop for at the moment, something that
we're working hard on fixing.
SAP is hard to install *and* hard to develop for. Or maybe just
expensive, depending on how you look at it. ;)
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