Bruno Marchal wrote:
> 
> On 22 Sep 2009, at 15:51, Flammarion wrote:
> 
>> He goes on to conclude that I am being generated by an immaterial
>> UD. That is not possible if there are no immaterial entities.
> 
> 
> You are in a third person way. If you are a program relatively to any  
> "real world", you are 'executed' infinitely often by the material UD,  
> and by the arithmetical UD too in the corresponding third person sense).
> 
> And MGA makes the need of a material UD non sensical, for anything  
> epistemological.
> 
> Then, what you call "primary matter" is explained by the appearances  
> of some irreductible invariant in universal 'dreams'. The real  
> question is "why is it so symmetrical", is information preserved, is  
> the empirical world coherent with the comp physics, etc.
> 
> Some people can argue that MGA is not needed. They believe that it is  
> obvious that consciousness is not something material at all, and that  
> it is a waste of time of both trying to attach consciousness to  
> matter, or to argue with those who believes that is possible (with or  
> without comp).

But I'll bet they still try to avoid being struck in the head.

Brent

> 
> Do you see the different 'big' picture (as opposed to believe it  
> follows from comp)?
> 
> Bruno
> 
> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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