2009/9/23 Flammarion <[email protected]>: >> > > Some people can argue that MGA is not needed. They believe that it is >> > > obvious that consciousness is not something material at all, and that >> > > it is a waste of time of both trying to attach consciousness to >> > > matter, or to argue with those who believes that is possible (with or >> > > without comp). >> >> > But I'll bet they still try to avoid being struck in the head. >> >> Good point. However, Donald Hoffman makes a highly relevant >> distinction between taking one's experiences literally, and taking >> them seriously. I would recommend the following piece, particularly >> the section on the MUI (Multimodal User Interface): >> >> http://www.cogsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/ConsciousRealism2.pdf > > That is just rehashed idealism with all the standard problems.
The point is that Brent's comment - like Johnson's 'refutation' of Berkeley - is ineffectual as a dismissal of Bruno's theoretical position. Hoffman gives a neat account of how this might go. As to the problems, you pays your money...... David > > > > On 23 Sep, 16:10, David Nyman <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sep 22, 7:47 pm, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > Some people can argue that MGA is not needed. They believe that it is >> > > obvious that consciousness is not something material at all, and that >> > > it is a waste of time of both trying to attach consciousness to >> > > matter, or to argue with those who believes that is possible (with or >> > > without comp). >> >> > But I'll bet they still try to avoid being struck in the head. >> >> Good point. However, Donald Hoffman makes a highly relevant >> distinction between taking one's experiences literally, and taking >> them seriously. I would recommend the following piece, particularly >> the section on the MUI (Multimodal User Interface): >> >> http://www.cogsci.uci.edu/~ddhoff/ConsciousRealism2.pdf > > That is just rehashed idealism with all the standard problems. > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

