2009/9/22 Brent Meeker <meeke...@dslextreme.com>

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> Bruno Marchal wrote:
> >
> > On 22 Sep 2009, at 15:51, Flammarion wrote:
> >
> >> He goes on to conclude that I am being generated by an immaterial
> >> UD. That is not possible if there are no immaterial entities.
> >
> >
> > You are in a third person way. If you are a program relatively to any
> > "real world", you are 'executed' infinitely often by the material UD,
> > and by the arithmetical UD too in the corresponding third person sense).
> >
> > And MGA makes the need of a material UD non sensical, for anything
> > epistemological.
> >
> > Then, what you call "primary matter" is explained by the appearances
> > of some irreductible invariant in universal 'dreams'. The real
> > question is "why is it so symmetrical", is information preserved, is
> > the empirical world coherent with the comp physics, etc.
> >
> > Some people can argue that MGA is not needed. They believe that it is
> > obvious that consciousness is not something material at all, and that
> > it is a waste of time of both trying to attach consciousness to
> > matter, or to argue with those who believes that is possible (with or
> > without comp).
>
> But I'll bet they still try to avoid being struck in the head.
>
> Brent
>

Well if reality emerge from computations, that will not render it less
real... because it would be the real, then "believing" that does not render
you painless and superman.

Quentin


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> > Do you see the different 'big' picture (as opposed to believe it
> > follows from comp)?
> >
> > Bruno
> >
> > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ <http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/%7Emarchal/>
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