2009/9/22 Brent Meeker <[email protected]> > > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > On 22 Sep 2009, at 15:51, Flammarion wrote: > > > >> He goes on to conclude that I am being generated by an immaterial > >> UD. That is not possible if there are no immaterial entities. > > > > > > You are in a third person way. If you are a program relatively to any > > "real world", you are 'executed' infinitely often by the material UD, > > and by the arithmetical UD too in the corresponding third person sense). > > > > And MGA makes the need of a material UD non sensical, for anything > > epistemological. > > > > Then, what you call "primary matter" is explained by the appearances > > of some irreductible invariant in universal 'dreams'. The real > > question is "why is it so symmetrical", is information preserved, is > > the empirical world coherent with the comp physics, etc. > > > > Some people can argue that MGA is not needed. They believe that it is > > obvious that consciousness is not something material at all, and that > > it is a waste of time of both trying to attach consciousness to > > matter, or to argue with those who believes that is possible (with or > > without comp). > > But I'll bet they still try to avoid being struck in the head. > > Brent >
Well if reality emerge from computations, that will not render it less real... because it would be the real, then "believing" that does not render you painless and superman. Quentin > > > > > Do you see the different 'big' picture (as opposed to believe it > > follows from comp)? > > > > Bruno > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ <http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/%7Emarchal/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
