On Apr 2, 11:21 pm, stephenk <stephe...@charter.net> wrote: > Hi Nick, > > On Apr 2, 7:22 am, Nick Prince <nickmag.pri...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Yes agreed. Also if timelike entanglements occurred there would be > > less worry about conflict with relativity than there was originally > > with spacelike effects. However if I understand decoherence > > correctly, information from the system passes into the environment so > > it is there somehow but very dispersed. > > [SPK] > Yes, but only rarely is the "environment" an ideal gas or monolithic > solid such that our usual ideas of diffusion and dispersal will apply. > I suspect that we need to think about how decoherence works in a > framework that takes into consideration a wide variety of rates and > that considers how the phase entanglement is distributed. I have tried > to find work examining this and only recently some papers have come > out. > See:http://www.quantiki.org/wiki/Decoherence-free_subspacesandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decoherence-free_subspaces > It took a while, but Tegmark's no-go is finally loosing its hold. (I > swear that guy is the reincarnation of Lord Kelvin!) > > From what I can tell decoherence is more of an effects that > disperses among the many-worlds and not one that spreads within a > single world - like photons. We really do not have good physical > analogies for it! > > >I did write a paper once(when > > I was younger and more stupid, so it has very doubtful worth) but I > > tried to formalise mathematically how memories might be stored in > > space time rather than in the brain at all ie working on the idea that > > the brain was more of an aeriel rather than a hard drive. These > > memories could then be later picked up by a simulated entity by > > appropriate tuning. It was a stab in the dark. > > [SPK] > > Interesting idea! It reminds me of Sheldrake's Morphic fields. I > think that James P. Hogan wrote a novel based on a similar idea also, > except in "Paths to Otherwhere" the ideas was to "tune" in on > differing parallel worlds and even travel between them. > I think that we still do not fully understand the implications of > QM. > > Onward! > > Stephen > > > > > > > On Apr 2, 1:59 am, stephenk <stephe...@charter.net> wrote: > > snip > > > > The idea that the EPR effect would work across time-like as well > > > as space-like intervals makes sense in light of relativity. I am > > > surprised that more people have not looked into it! The main > > > difficulty I see is that there is a huge prejudice against the idea > > > that macroscopic systems can be entangled such that EPR type relations > > > could hold and have effects like you are considering here. Most of the > > > arguments for decoherence inevitably assume that *all* of the degrees > > > of freedom of a QM system are subject to one and the same decoherence > > > rate with its environment. What if this is not the case? What if there > > > is a stratification of sorts possible within macroscopic systems such > > > that degrees of freedom can decohere are differing rates? Correlations > > > of the EPR type would be possible within these, it seems to me...- Hide > > > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
Yes Sheldrakes ideas are just the kind of thing I was thinking of. I think that he looked at my paper and used a reference to, I think? alligned himself with Matti Pitkanen who was a referee for the paper. Pitkanen promotes Topological Geometrodynamics and somehow this accounts for consciousness etc - I think? Unfortunately I am no good at quantum field theory and GMD seems full of it - I really can't understand any of it. He uses p-adic numbers but it's a while since I read about it. He has quite a few papers out on vixra.org. so I guess I should browse them again. Best wishes Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
