On 8/6/2011 3:48 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.08.2011 12:27 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Craig
Weinberg<[email protected]> wrote:
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Consciousness isn't provided. It's not a service. It's like saying
that mass is being provided to an object.
My position is that consciousness occurs necessarily if the sort of
activity that leads to intelligent behaviour occurs. This is not
immediately obvious, at least to me. I assume therefore that it is
not true: that it is possible to have intelligent behaviour (or
neuron-like behaviour) without consciousness. This assumption is
then shown to lead to absurdity.
How do you define intelligent behaviour? For example in the book
Dario Floreano and Claudio Mattiussi, Bio-Inspired Artificial
Intelligence: Theories, Methods, and Technologies, 2008
there is a nice chapter about immune systems. I would say that the
behaviour of an immune system is very intelligent. What does it mean
then?
Are you asking if it means the immune system is conscious? I don't know
enough about the immune system to be sure, but I don't think the immune
system cogitates. Having faced several infections, does the immune
system generalize or abstract so as to effective against new different
infections? If it does I'd say it is intelligent. That wouldn't imply
that it is conscious of itself though. I think that requires awareness
of others and I doubt your immune system is aware of mine. Bruno will
probably argue that it is conscious, since it is probably Lobian. But I
think this is stretching the meaning of "conscious" too far.
Brent
Evgenii
P.S. The paragraph about intelligence from the book above
http://blog.rudnyi.ru/2011/03/intelligence.html
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