On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> On 8/6/2011 8:35 AM, John Mikes wrote:
>
>> Stasthis,
>>
>> let me barge in with one fundamental - not dispersing my reply into those
>> (many and long) details:
>>
>> As I read your comments/replies (and I agree with your position within the
>> limits I want to expose here), I have the feeling that you agree with the
>> rest of the combatants in considering 'the brain', our idea about
>> 'intelligence' and 'consciousness' as complete and total. I argue that it is
>> not. Upon historic reminiscence all such inventory about these (and many
>> more) concepts has been growing by addition and by phasing out imaginary
>> 'content'   as we 'learn', - an ongoing process that does not seem to have
>> reached the ultimate end/completion.
>>
>> So you are right in considering whatever we new yesterday (my substitution
>> for today) but not including what we may know tomorrow. Drawing conclusions
>> upon incomplete inventory  does not seem acceptable.
>>
>> Regards
>> John Mikes
>>
>
> If we wait until we know everything, we'll never draw any conclusion; which
> is OK for science.  But for engineering we need to make decisions.
>
> Brent
>

Brent: this is fine, we just should not mix up engineering with science:
"My" science is the agnostic decision that we CANNOT know everything and
feel comfortably in it. Also in my past engineering I made decisions but
never pretended them to be scientific results.
Thanks for the remark

John

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