On Aug 30, 4:06 am, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > On 29 Aug 2011, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> > Definitely, but the reasons that we have for causing those changes in > > the semiconductor material are not semiconductor logics. They use > > hardware logic to to get the hardware to do software logic, just as > > the mind uses the brain's hardware to remember, imagine, plan, or > > execute what the mind wants it to. What the mind wants is influenced > > by the brain, but the brain is also influenced directly by the mind. > > A hard-wired universal machine can emulate a self-transforming > universal machine, or a high level universal machine acting on its low > level universal bearer. Ok, but can it emulate a non-machine? > The point is just this one: do you or not make your theory relying on > something non-Turing emulable. If the answer is yes: what is it? Yes, biological, zoological, and anthropological awareness. Feeling as qualitatively distinct from detection. Not to disqualify machines implemented in a particular material - stone, silicon, milk bottles, whatever, from having the normal detection experiences of those substances and pbjects, but there is nothing to tempt me to want to assign human neurological qualia to milk bottles stacked up like dominoes. We know about synesthesia and agnosia, and I am positing HADD or prognosia to describe how the assumption of qualia equivalence is invalid. If we make a machine out of living cells, then we run into the problem of living cells not being easily persuaded to do our bidding. To physically enact the design of universal machine, you need a relatively inanimate substance, which is the very thing that you cannot use to make a living organism with access to qualia in the biological range. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
