On 2/5/2012 8:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

No. All universal numbers can interpret a number as a function on quantities, or asproperties on quantities, which are not quantities themselves. Universal numbers canalso transform, or interpret numbers as transformation of transformation, properties ofproperties, up in the constructive transfinite, etc.When the quantities can add and multiply, soon their attributes are beyond allquantities, and LĂ¶bian quantities are arguably already knowing that about themselves.

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