2012/3/6 meekerdb <[email protected]> > On 3/6/2012 8:12 AM, David Nyman wrote: > >> On 5 March 2012 23:50, meekerdb<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It's unclear as to whom "you" and "your" refers to. >>> >> Let me suggest a heuristic. Assume that any given instance of >> experience (by which I mean just whatever is necessary to permit some >> sort of determination to be made) is selected at random from the class >> of all such moments. All personal-indexical references can then be >> taken as referring to the conjunction of this instance and whatever >> "personal history" is implied by its content and structure. >> >> This heuristic serves to justify the "expectation", from the >> perspective of any such instance, of its substitution by other such >> instances. Insofar as such substitutions imply "continuations" of the >> present moment, they can be considered as constituting part of the >> "future" of a particular personal history. If this heuristic is >> applied consistently to the various thought experiments, (with the >> usual allowance for "measure") it should be obvious that "diary >> entries" recoverable within any given experiential instance will >> typically record precisely the sort of prior uncertainty or >> indeterminacy, with respect to the present instance, that Bruno is >> talking about. >> >> David >> > > I don't think I have a problem with the indeterminacy. Consider in your > scenario that we duplicated a video camera instead of a person. When look > at what the cameras in M and W have recorded in one we see pictures of > Helsinki followed by pictures of Moscow and from the other we see pictures > of Helsinki followed by pictures of Washington. The ambiguity comes when, > before the duplication, we ask, "What will this camera record?". "This" is > ambiguous just as "he" is ambiguous.
The question is indexical... it it not "he" but "I"... in the thought experiment *you* are the one duplicated, and you ask yourself your own expectation for your next moment. Maybe what is "you" is not well defined for something outside of you (us ;) ) but I expect you know what you are, and feel... and hence "you" is well defined for yourself from your POV. Quentin > > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscribe@ > **googlegroups.com <everything-list%[email protected]>. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
