On Apr 3, 3:20 am, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 2, 8:06 pm, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > From blindsight, synesthesia, and anosognosia we know that particular
> > > qualia are not inevitably associated with the conditions they usually
> > > represent for us, so it seems impossible to justify qualia on a
> > > functionalist basis. Just as a computer needs no speakers and video
> > > screen inside itself, there is no purpose for such a presentation
> > > layer within our own mechanism. Of course, even if there were a
> > > purpose, there is no hint of such a possibility from mechanism alone.
> > > If there was some reason that a bucket of rocks could benefit by some
> > > kind of collective 'experience' occurring amongst them, that's a
> > > million miles from suspecting that experience could be a conceivable
> > > possibility.
> > > Rather than 'consciousness', human beings would benefit evolutionarily
> > > much more by just being able to do something mechanically conceivable
> > > things like teleport, time travel, or breathe fire. Awareness doesn't
> > > even make sense as a possibility. Were we not experiencing it
> > > ourselves we could never anticipate any such possibility in any
> > > universe.
> > Since there is no evolutionary advantage to consciousness it must be a
> > side-effect of the sort of behaviour that conscious organisms display.
> > Otherwise, why did we not evolve as zombies?
> Because existence is a subordinate category of awareness and not the
> other way around. Evolution is an epiphenomenon of physics, and
> physics is the back end of the Totality. The front end is awareness.
I have no idea what any of that means.
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