On 31 Aug 2012, at 19:42, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/31/2012 1:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 30 Aug 2012, at 19:19, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/30/2012 10:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 29 Aug 2012, at 22:30, meekerdb wrote:
From experience I know people tend not to adopt it, but let me
recommend a distinction. Moral is what I expect of myself.
Ethics is what I do and what I hope other people will do in
their interactions with other people. They of course tend to
overlap since I will be ashamed of myself if I cheat someone, so
it's both immoral and unethical. But they are not the same. If
I spent my time smoking pot and not working I'd be disappointed
in myself, but it wouldn't be unethical.
I'm not sure I understand. "not working" wouldn't be immoral
either. Disappointing, yes, but immoral?
In my definition it would be immoral because I expect myself to
work. It's personal. It doesn't imply that it would be immoral
for you to not work. But it would be unethical for you to not work
and to be supported by others. That's the point of making a
distinction between moral (consistent with personal values, 1P)
and ethical (consistent with social values, 3p).
OK, then I disagree (by which I mean that I am OK with you).
By "OK with you" I mean you are free to use personal definition
orthogonal to the use of the majority.
By "orthogonal" I mean ...
But it's not orthogonal, it's just at an slight angle. Do you see
no distinction between standards by which you judge yourself and
those which by which society may judge you?
i just don't understand what is moral or immoral in the fact of eating
too much pizza and not doing work. It might be stupid, but I don't see
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