So you havenĀ“t lived in the XX century perhaps.

2012/8/30 Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>

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> On Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:01:45 PM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote:
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>> I think that there are many tries to separate moral from ethics:
>> indiividual versus social, innate versus cultural, emotional versus
>> rational etc.  The whole point is to obviate the m*** world as much as we
>> can, under the impression that moral is subjective and not objetive, or
>> more precisely that there is no moral that can be objective.  An there is
>> such crap as the separation of facts and values (as if values (and in
>> particular universal values) where not social facts).
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>> Well, this is a more effect of positivism which is deeply flawed in
>> theoretical and practical terms. It is a consequence also of  modern
>> gnosticism,  called progressivism of which positivism is one of the phases,
>> that believes possible in a certain future a society with a
>> perfect harmony of individual desires and social needs, making moral
>> unnecessary.
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> I have never heard anyone who expresses progressive, liberal, or left wing
> opinions state that they believe in a future society with a perfect
> anything or that morals were unnecessary.
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> Craig
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