On 8/30/2012 2:23 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:



On Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:01:45 PM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote:

    I think that there are many tries to separate moral from ethics:
    indiividual versus social, innate versus cultural, emotional
    versus rational etc.  The whole point is to obviate the m*** world
    as much as we can, under the impression that moral is subjective
    and not objetive, or more precisely that there is no moral that
    can be objective.  An there is such crap as the separation of
    facts and values (as if values (and in particular universal
    values) where not social facts).

    Well, this is a more effect of positivism which is deeply flawed
    in theoretical and practical terms. It is a consequence also of
     modern gnosticism,  called progressivism of which positivism is
    one of the phases, that believes possible in a certain future a
    society with a perfect harmony of individual desires and social
    needs, making moral unnecessary.


I have never heard anyone who expresses progressive, liberal, or left wing opinions state that they believe in a future society with a perfect anything or that morals were unnecessary.

Craig
Hi Craig,

Umm, ever hear of the concept of "Heaven"? It sounds very much like a "a future society with a perfect anything or that morals were unnecessary".

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Onward!

Stephen

http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html

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