Anyway this is tangential to the everything list, so I will not continue
discussions like this. I will only highlight these fact whenever the
question sufaces from other subjects, such is individuality.

2012/8/30 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>

> So you havenĀ“t lived in the XX century perhaps.
>
> 2012/8/30 Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>
>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:01:45 PM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that there are many tries to separate moral from ethics:
>>> indiividual versus social, innate versus cultural, emotional versus
>>> rational etc.  The whole point is to obviate the m*** world as much as we
>>> can, under the impression that moral is subjective and not objetive, or
>>> more precisely that there is no moral that can be objective.  An there is
>>> such crap as the separation of facts and values (as if values (and in
>>> particular universal values) where not social facts).
>>>
>>> Well, this is a more effect of positivism which is deeply flawed in
>>> theoretical and practical terms. It is a consequence also of  modern
>>> gnosticism,  called progressivism of which positivism is one of the phases,
>>> that believes possible in a certain future a society with a
>>> perfect harmony of individual desires and social needs, making moral
>>> unnecessary.
>>>
>>
>> I have never heard anyone who expresses progressive, liberal, or left
>> wing opinions state that they believe in a future society with a perfect
>> anything or that morals were unnecessary.
>>
>>
>> Craig
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