Hi Craig Weinberg That was a rhetorical statement. Hyperbole. Obviously, as you point out, it didn't happen with the white men killing Indians or the nazis killing Jews.
But I think it still had to be overcome in those cases, by orders from above. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/12/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-11, 12:32:19 Subject: Re: "Reason is and ever ought to be, the slave of passion." On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:33:57 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: Hi Jason Resch Faith (trust) and love trump logic every time. If my neighbor has riches, it would be logical to rob him blind. Why 'every time'. Didn't the Native Americans have faith and love in their spiritual traditions yet we exterminated by the tens of millions by the logic of European conquest? Didn't the logic of Auschwitz trump the faith of the Jews in their God, and the love and faith that the Nazis had for Hitler fall under the logic of allied carpet bombing? Craig "Reason is and ever ought to be, the slave of passion." David Hume Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/11/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Jason Resch Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-11, 08:53:41 Subject: Re: victims of faith On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stat...@gmail.com> wrote: But what is unique about religion is that its proponents make factual statements which they proudly profess to believe in the absence of any supporting evidence, while disallowing such reasoning for bizarre beliefs different to their own without any apparent awareness of the inconsistency. Some believers and some religions do, others not. But this is not limited to religion. You saw John Clark admit he was proud to reject ideas (even those with some evidence), in a effect, making a factual statement (implied idea X is not true) in the absence of supporting evidence. As an example showing that such certainty is a trait of all religion, see this quote concerning creation from the Rig Veda: ? ho knows truly? Who here will declare whence it arose, whence this creation? The gods are subsequent to the creation of this. Who, then, knows whence it has come into being? Whence this creation has come into being; whether it was made or not; he in the highest heaven is its surveyor. Surely he knows, or perhaps he knows not. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/B6f9z9DfSZQJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
