But unextended objects according with S. T. Aquinas exist in our mind and are reasonable, that is they are absent from contradictions, that is according with the facts of reality, which for Aquinas is part of the Revelation, which has two sides: the Natural Revelation ( The creation: Nature) and the Written Revelation: The bible
Many facts of Natural Revelation suggest that the Creator proceed by evolution, by a complex process called popularly "natural selection", and NS have rules that affect how behaviours and mental process work in humans and other animals (according with Aquinas, men and animals share the animal substance). NS assures that what we perceive is "in relation" a external physical reality, but it is NOT the external physical reality. In other words, the architecture of the mind, and the concepts that we manage are created to deal with the phisical reality trough our mental image of reality that the mind produces. We can not access the "physical reality" directly. Therefore every object is first and foremost, mental, included the extensional objects. The reality is therefore, mental. Therefore, any definition of Existence and Truth is in terms of mental categories. So both extensional and unextensional objects are subject of study of a science of the mind under the hypothesis that the mind and the external reality have such relation that I expressed, given the facts that Natural Revelation show to science, And the fact that according with Aquinas, God is perfect and because it is a perfect being could not falll in irrationalities nor in breakings of cause-effect. Therefore an evolutionary study of religion is a legitimate part of Natural Theology. 2012/9/12 Roger Clough <[email protected]> > Hi Alberto G. Corona > > Scientific truth is truth about extended (physical) objects > > Religious or humanistic truth is truth about inextended (nonphysical) > objects. > > Period. > > Roger Clough, [email protected] > 9/12/2012 > Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him > so that everything could function." > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > *From:* Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> > *Receiver:* everything-list <[email protected]> > *Time:* 2012-09-12, 07:22:14 > *Subject:* Re: victims of faith > > Note that the natural definition of Truth and reality that arises from a > evolutionarily-informed theory of biology psichology and sociology > (sociobiology) is very simple: True and existent is whatever that make > individuals and groups to be successful. Men and women "exist in reality" > as objects of perception because these objects and their behaviours have a > big importance for our survival, so we have specialized circuits for > perceiving and thinking about them. The more circuits for processing > something, the more true and "existent in reality" is. > > My social capital psychology theory postulates that we have a way to > assess, in advance, how good the consequences of an idea are for us and for > our group. 燭his instinctive evaluation determines if an idea is good and > therefore, if it is true(given the above). This evaluation of an idea > depend o its intrinsic explanatory power, but also in how this idea make > our 爂roup strong and coordinated in relation with others. This applies to > any kind of idea: scientific, religious or whatever. > > Both factors, explanatory power and social capital potential may collide, > but by far the social capital component is the most important in human > life. We do not spent much time discussing about the spin of the electron, > because the explanatory power is easy to assess. But we make wars when > there is a collision of ideas with social capital implied like "all men are > equal under the law, the individual has the right to seek happiness for > himself" and �"another world of equality and happiness is possible if we > remove the social obstacles for human development" > > 燝ood and Truth is the same in many phylosophical systems.� > A group and its associated beliefs works as an insurance company. In > essence the rational risk analysis of a client before signing a contract > with an insurance company is similar to the evaluation of the beliefs of a > group燼lthough in this case it is unconscious and produces sentiments of > conversion, goodness and truthfulness. > > > > 2012/9/12 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> > >> There is no difference at all between religious mitifications and other >> mitifucatuons . See form, example the paper about Darwin that I posted. >> religion is a label that appears when the爉ith爄s old enough it has enough >> believers and the object of mitification is far away in time. � >> >> People are reluctant to admit that they have unfounded beliefs. Specially >> if they have been educated in the belief that any belief is bad and into >> the belied that they have no beliefs. But to have a commong ground of >> beliefs is a prerequisite for individual and social life. 營 think that my >> theory of social capital, mytopoesis and belief and the assimilaion of good >> and truth is sound in evolutuionary terms, and provides a factual/operation >> definition of Truth in the world of the mind, which is the only world >> accesible to us. >> >> >> 2012/9/11 Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> >> >>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > every statement about 爓hatever, included "reality" is made with mental >>> > concepts . 燭he definition of truth, reality , factual, religion, >>> depend on >>> > axioms or unproved statements. I presented a >>> computational-evolutionary, >>> > falsable, exposition of what religion is: 燼 part of a wider class of >>> > phenomenons of "reality construction" and I demonstrated IHMO that no >>> man is >>> > free from it. >>> >>> Aspects of religious belief such as mythopoesis, do occur in other >>> facets of life, such as politics and even science. But what is unique >>> about religion is that its proponents make factual statements which >>> they proudly profess to believe in the absence of any supporting >>> evidence, while disallowing such reasoning for bizarre beliefs >>> different to their own without any apparent awareness of the >>> inconsistency. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stathis Papaioannou >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >>> >>> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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