In string theory compact dimensions support arithmetic, which in turn supports the evolution of life and dreams. Richard
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 17 Oct 2012, at 10:12, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > > > >> > Life may support mathematics. > > > > Arithmetic may support life. It is full of life and dreams. > > > > Life is a computation devoted to making guesses about the future in order to > self preserve . This is only possible in a world where natural computers are > possible: in a world where the phisical laws have a mathematical nature. > Instead of comp creating a mathematical-phisical reality, is the > mathematical reality what creates the computations in which we live. > > So all kind of arbitrary universes may exist, but only (some) mathematical > ones can harbour self preserving computations, that is, observers. > > > OK. But harboring self-preserving computation is not enough, it must do in a > first person measure winning way on all computations going through our > state. That's nice as this explain that your idea of evolution needs to be > extended up to the origin of the physical laws. > > > > >> Mathematics is just a collection of representations that are >> internally logically consistent (note that the total mathematical universe >> is not a single consistent set!), so outside of that what is there? Comp is >> a mathematical model, its "support" outside of math remains to be seen. > > > Comp, is a bet involving the physical world, and the first person subject. > But by its very nature, it leads to doubt the necessity to bet about > something outside of a tiny part of arithmetic, for the ontology, as the > "inside view" will already explode in a non mathematically unboundable way. > > You need only the Turing universal reality. It is not important to choose > numbers, or lambda terms, or combinators, or the game of life pattern, as > they all lead to the same couplings consciousness/realities. > > The arithmetical reality escapes the computable reality, but the computed > beings are confronted to both the computable and the non computable, and a > complete transfinite ladder of surprises. > > Bruno > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.

