On 10/19/2012 1:37 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Oct 2012, at 22:02, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/10/17 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com
2012/10/17 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 17 Oct 2012, at 10:12, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Life may support mathematics.
Arithmetic may support life. It is full of life and dreams.
Life is a computation devoted to making guesses about the
future in order to self preserve . This is only possible in
a world where natural computers are possible: in a world
where the phisical laws have a mathematical nature. Instead
of comp creating a mathematical-phisical reality, is the
mathematical reality what creates the computations in which
So all kind of arbitrary universes may exist, but only
(some) mathematical ones can harbour self preserving
computations, that is, observers.
OK. But harboring self-preserving computation is not enough,
it must do in a first person measure winning way on all
computations going through our state. That's nice as this
explain that your idea of evolution needs to be extended up
to the origin of the physical laws.
I don´t think so .The difference between computation as an
ordinary process of matter from the idea of computation as the
ultimate essence of reality is that the first restrict not only
the mathematical laws, but also forces a matemacity of reality
because computation in living beings becomes a process with a
cost that favour a low kolmogorov complexity for the reality. In
essence, it forces a discoverable local universe... ,
In contrast, the idea of computation as the ultimate nature of
realtity postulates computations devoid of restrictions by
definition, so they may not restrict anything in the reality that
we perceive. we may be boltzmann brains, we may be a product not
of evolution but a product of random computations. we may
perceive elephants flying...
And still much of your conclussions coming from the first person
indeterminacy may hold by considering living beings as ordinary
material personal computers.
Yes, that's step seven. If the universe is enough "big", to run a
*significant* part of the UD. But I think that the white rabbits
disappear only on the limit of the whole UD work (UD*).
Tell us more about how White Rabbits can appear if there is any
restriction of mutual logical consistency between 1p and in any
arbitrary recursion of 1p content?
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