On Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:48:45 AM UTC-5, Alberto G.Corona wrote: > > so awareness and intention are before biology, so you seem to admit a > teleology before life, like me. >
Teleology and teleonomy both predate life. They are what time is made of. > I don`t find this incompatible with natural selection (or evolution, as > left-leaning people likes to call it) > Hahaha, I wasn't aware that the very term evolution was now politicized. Actually it looks like Darwin preferred another term: Charles Darwin used the word only once, in the closing paragraph of "The > Origin of Species" (1859), and preferred descent with modification, in > part because evolution already had been used in the 18c. homunculus > theory of embryological development (first proposed under this name by > Bonnet, 1762), in part because it carried a sense of "progress" not found > in Darwin's idea. But Victorian belief in progress prevailed (along with > brevity), and Herbert Spencer and other biologists popularized evolution. > > http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=evolution > So the reason that evolution was not Darwin's choice is precisely because he understood that it is not teleological. > . You seem to admit natural selection up to a point but you reject it when > we are talking to sensible human things like the sexual roles. > Yes, natural selection only shapes things that already exist, it doesn't bring awareness or qualities of awareness into existence. > You enjoy the fact that NS made female hyenas to behave in some > politically correct ways (it seems). but you reject that NS selection make > female humans behave as is in almost all the rest of the animal kingdom. > That´t funny. > I think it's funny that you think I'm citing some evidence supporting a left wing agenda. I'm only showing you that gender is not written in stone. It's something that most people are already aware of - although if you are over 60 then you have an excuse. Craig > > . > > 2012/12/13 Craig Weinberg <[email protected] <javascript:>> > >> doing > > > > > -- > Alberto. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/sdpVQn09vMYJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
