On Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:43:59 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
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>  Hi Alberto G. Corona 
>  
> It's much simpler than that, I think.
> Progressives hate everything resembles anything 
> held to be good, beautiful, or true.
>

Then your thoughts are simple-minded indeed.

Gandhi, MLK, Einstein were haters of goodness, beauty, and truth? 
Progressives aren't artists or musicians?

You can believe in black and white demagoguery if you like..that's exactly 
what Progressives want to leave behind.

Craig

 
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> 12/13/2012 
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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> *Subject:* Re: Moral evaluations of harm are instant and emotional,brain 
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>   You said it:
> ."...in part because it (evolution) carried a sense of "progress" not 
> found in Darwin's idea"
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> Evolution is descriptive, is the fact. natural selection is the theory 
> that explain it. A scientific theory impose constraints with what may and 
> may not happen. For example, child caring and risk taking at the same time 
> may not happen. 
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> That� why progressives prefer the term evolution rather than �atural 
> selection. They want no constraints for his will of the transformation of 
> themselves and their society according with its will.
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> 2012/12/13 Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
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>> On Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:48:45 AM UTC-5, Alberto G.Corona wrote: 
>>>
>>> so awareness and intention are before biology, so you seem to admit a 
>>> teleology before life, like me.
>>>
>>
>> Teleology and teleonomy both predate life. They are what time is made of.
>> �
>>  
>>> I don`t find this�ncompatible�ith natural selection (or evolution, as 
>>> left-leaning people likes to call it)
>>>
>>
>> Hahaha, I wasn't aware that the very term evolution was now politicized. 
>> Actually it looks like Darwin preferred another term:
>>
>> Charles Darwin used the word only once, in the closing paragraph of "The 
>>> Origin of Species" (1859), and preferred descent with modification, in 
>>> part because evolution already had been used in the 18c. homunculus 
>>> theory of embryological development (first proposed under this name by 
>>> Bonnet, 1762), in part because it carried a sense of "progress" not found 
>>> in Darwin's idea. But Victorian belief in progress prevailed (along with 
>>> brevity), and Herbert Spencer and other biologists popularized evolution
>>> .
>>>
>>> http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=evolution
>>>
>>
>> So the reason that evolution was not Darwin's choice is precisely because 
>> he understood that it is not teleological.
>> �
>>  
>>> . You seem to admit natural selection up to a point but you reject it 
>>> when we are talking to sensible human things like the sexual roles. 
>>>
>>
>> Yes, natural selection only shapes things that already exist, it doesn't 
>> bring awareness or qualities of awareness into existence.
>> �
>>  
>>> You enjoy the fact that NS made female�yenas to behave in�ome 
>>> politically correct ways (it seems). but you reject that NS selection make 
>>> female humans behave �s is in almost all the rest of the animal kingdom. 
>>> That� funny.
>>>
>>
>> I think it's funny that you think I'm citing some evidence supporting a 
>> left wing agenda. I'm only showing you that gender is not written in stone. 
>> It's something that most people are already aware of - although if you are 
>> over 60 then you have an excuse.
>>
>> Craig
>> �
>>
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> 2012/12/13 Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> doing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Alberto.
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