I may be between both of you. I don´t think that the hate in progressives is constitutive or inherent.
I think that his hate of what is held a good beatiful and true is a consequence of his belief in a more perfect ggood, bbeatiful and ttrue, and our currently held concepts are an obstacle. I put double initial letters because for the progressives there is no Good, Beatiful and True, but a progress with no end. Conservatives, like me, believe that God Beatiful and True exist, and our lowecase conceptions reflect them. 2012/12/13 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> > > > On Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:43:59 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: >> >> Hi Alberto G. Corona >> >> It's much simpler than that, I think. >> Progressives hate everything resembles anything >> held to be good, beautiful, or true. >> > > Then your thoughts are simple-minded indeed. > > Gandhi, MLK, Einstein were haters of goodness, beauty, and truth? > Progressives aren't artists or musicians? > > You can believe in black and white demagoguery if you like..that's exactly > what Progressives want to leave behind. > > Craig > > >> >> [Roger Clough], [[email protected]] >> 12/13/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> *From:* Alberto G. Corona >> *Receiver:* everything-list >> *Time:* 2012-12-13, 10:13:03 >> *Subject:* Re: Moral evaluations of harm are instant and emotional,brain >> study shows >> >> You said it: >> ."...in part because it (evolution) carried a sense of "progress" not >> found in Darwin's idea" >> >> Evolution is descriptive, is the fact. natural selection is the theory >> that explain it. A scientific theory impose constraints with what may and >> may not happen. For example, child caring and risk taking at the same time >> may not happen. >> >> That� why progressives prefer the term evolution rather than �atural >> selection. They want no constraints for his will of the transformation of >> themselves and their society according with its will. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2012/12/13 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:48:45 AM UTC-5, Alberto G.Corona wrote: >>>> >>>> so awareness and intention are before biology, so you seem to admit a >>>> teleology before life, like me. >>>> >>> >>> Teleology and teleonomy both predate life. They are what time is made of. >>> � >>> >>>> I don`t find this�ncompatible�ith natural selection (or evolution, as >>>> left-leaning people likes to call it) >>>> >>> >>> Hahaha, I wasn't aware that the very term evolution was now politicized. >>> Actually it looks like Darwin preferred another term: >>> >>> Charles Darwin used the word only once, in the closing paragraph of "The >>>> Origin of Species" (1859), and preferred descent with modification, in >>>> part because evolution already had been used in the 18c. homunculus >>>> theory of embryological development (first proposed under this name by >>>> Bonnet, 1762), in part because it carried a sense of "progress" not found >>>> in Darwin's idea. But Victorian belief in progress prevailed (along with >>>> brevity), and Herbert Spencer and other biologists popularized >>>> evolution. >>>> >>>> http://www.etymonline.com/**index.php?term=evolution<http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=evolution> >>>> >>> >>> So the reason that evolution was not Darwin's choice is precisely >>> because he understood that it is not teleological. >>> � >>> >>>> . You seem to admit natural selection up to a point but you reject it >>>> when we are talking to sensible human things like the sexual roles. >>>> >>> >>> Yes, natural selection only shapes things that already exist, it doesn't >>> bring awareness or qualities of awareness into existence. >>> � >>> >>>> You enjoy the fact that NS made female�yenas to behave in�ome >>>> politically correct ways (it seems). but you reject that NS selection make >>>> female humans behave �s is in almost all the rest of the animal kingdom. >>>> That� funny. >>>> >>> >>> I think it's funny that you think I'm citing some evidence supporting a >>> left wing agenda. I'm only showing you that gender is not written in stone. >>> It's something that most people are already aware of - although if you are >>> over 60 then you have an excuse. >>> >>> Craig >>> � >>> >>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> 2012/12/13 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> doing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alberto. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >>> msg/everything-list/-/**sdpVQn09vMYJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/sdpVQn09vMYJ>. >>> >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.**com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-li...@** >>> googlegroups.com. >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>> . >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Alberto. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.**com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-li...@** >> googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >> . >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/KrxIG-s2MLgJ. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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