Hi Craig Weinberg 

Tsunamis and other forces of nature are themselves amoral*, but
their effects can be good (enhance life) or evil (diminish life).

*Since God causes everything to happen, he also, although
reluctantly (the theological term is God's "permissive will")
mustl cause evil to happen as well. "I cause the rain to
fall on just as well as the unjust" says the Bible.
Crap happens. At the same time, the Bible teaches us 
to appeal to God to "deliver us from evil."


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
1/3/2013 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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From: Craig Weinberg 
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Time: 2013-01-02, 16:06:10
Subject: Re: The evolution of good and evil




On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:58:45 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 1/2/2013 12:46 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: 


On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:05:10 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: 
On 1/2/2013 11:13 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: 


On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 12:57:34 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: 


On 02 Jan 2013, at 02:01, Craig Weinberg wrote:


Chemotherapy Good or Evil?


Better than nothing for most people having some disease.
Worst than THC injection, plausibly for the same group of people.


Here the Evil is only in the fact that minorities hides information from the 
majority, and this for the minority's interests.
This leads to harmful consequences for the majority.


Bruno

I was thinking more of how chemotherapy is ambiguous as far as it being 
something which can enhance life by inevitably diminishing it, but sure, the 
politics of it is an issue also.

If I had to get into a definition of good and evil I would go more toward a 
political direction - senseless inequality of power tends to lead to corruption 
and crime. Crime and corruption tends to lead to scapegoating or a misuse of 
sense. The combination of corrupt actions and distortion of truth to cover them 
up is probably as close to evil as I can think of.


Anything that causes great net suffering of people can be considered evil: 
cancer, small pox, AIDS, tsunamis,...  I see no reason to limit it to 
social/political causes.


Do you think that viruses and tsunamis are well served by the label 'Evil'?


?? I'm not interested in serving them.

Obviously. I meant 'Do you think that it serves us to label natural phenomena 
outside of our control as Evil'?
 

  Values are human values and each person has his own - although there is a lot 
of consistency.  I think society and individuals are well served by labeling 
some viruses and tsunamis as 'evil' because that means we should cooperate to 
mitigate them.  And in fact we have: We eliminated small pox.  We created a 
tsunami warning system.  Actions I count as good.


The action of mitigating damage is good, just as the intentional neglect of 
such actions are evil, but the non-human cause of the damage is neither good 
nor evil. If you get an electric shock, it does not mean that voltage is evil.

Craig



Brent
Unfortunately it is the prerogative of evil that to seem so is to
be so.
      --- Bertrand Russell



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